Miscellaneous or This and That

[resigned]

Then came Obama

Coondog, as WO said the list of culprits is long and it seems more will be added before its all over with. Our children and their children's future is being mortgaged.

[coondog]

Goyathaly asks:

who was Mohammed Mossedegh ? And why should we care?

He was that Muslim Guy! Right?

Coondog

I didn't google!

[coondog]

Our children and their children's future is being mortgaged.

What future is that? We already mortgaged that to pay for a War in Iraq. I still can't figure out the motivation for that one. Were THAT many people suffering from the same schizophrenic paranoid delusions?

We mortgaged it to enable corporate interests to squander every red cent worth of our wealth and our integrity. Our future!There is a lot of greed to go around.

We can blame Clinton. We can blame Bush. We can blame Obama, although even the GOP party leaders like Rush Limbaugh and Joe Wirzlebacher don't really believe that one.

We are not where we are because of Obama! He just got here! and.......neither you nor I, or the republicans or Obama himself knows whether the Trillions invested in the stimulus will drag us out of this mess.

But, for good or ill, we have taken a path. It seems that a vast majority of Americans support that choice of direction. Now, while I hold little faith in the opinion of vast majority of Americans, I do recognize that it is the confidence of a vast majority of Americans upon which the success of this gigantic economic venture relies.

Negativism, at this point, is obstructionism. The republicans, whose talking points you are so fond of repeating, are irrelevant. They have made themselves so by demonstrating that they will support no plan unless it is their plan, 100% their plan and 0% anyone else's. They demonstrated that in August which is why we have no energy plan. They demonstrated that, basically, in every legislative initative, previously or subsequently. Their economic plan, as it were, is nothing more than tax cuts. This approach didn't work before. By what standard do they hold credibility?

They decry earmarks, while amassing more than their proportionate share, and then whine about someone else's "wasteful spending". The hypocracy is at about eye level!

At this point, the GOP has reduced itself to the lowly position of Disloyal Opposition. Their behavior is so outrageous as to border on Treason. Limbaugh is preaching failure as the political goal of conservatives while Hannity, another direct vent for toxic GOP steam, is inciting armed insurrection. Under Bush's judiciary memo perrogatives, these people should already be in Gitmo.

You should stop listening to their littany of negativism and certainly stop quoting them. They know less about economics than I do...and I know nothing!

Coondog

Always look on the bright side of life!

[Wise One]

Goyathaly asks: who was Mohammed Mossedegh ? And why should we care?

He was that Muslim Guy! Right?

Dunno how or why this came up, but the reference is probably to this fact.

That is, America overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran, installed our puppet, and we have had nothing but trouble ever since. (Iranians had the wacky notion that they owned the oil found in Iran, if can you imagine such an outrage.)

Be very careful what you wish for.

[resigned]

It seems that a vast majority of Americans support that choice of direction. Now, while I hold little faith in the opinion of vast majority of Americans, I do recognize that it is the confidence of a vast majority of Americans upon which the success of this gigantic economic venture relies.!

I just read a poll by NBCWSJ which stated that 6 in 10 Americans are worried about the government spending too much. And my opinion is that the Obama's regime is spending way too much and who is going to pay it all back? The next several generations. How else will it get paid.

Negativism, at this point, is obstructionism. The republicans, whose talking points you are so fond of repeating, are irrelevant.

It seems to me that since I have belonged to this forum, most of you folks really enjoyed being negative regarding Bush, but it seems there is a double standard here. If this seems negative to you well then that's your problem. As for the talking points I use. Give me some credit. I do manage to think on my own. As for irrelevant - I don't think so. As for quoting Rush and Hannity where in this forum have I done that? But I have to say they make a lot of sense so put that in your pipe and smoke it. In the future I may start quoting both Rush, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham to name a few.

This is a free country and you choose whom in the media you listen to and I will choose whom I listen to.



PROUD CONSERVATIVE

[resigned]

RUSH: Obama can do whatever he wants without one Republican vote. His problem is fissures popping up in his own party. This is from the Congressional Quarterly: "Democratic Reps. Jim Matheson of Utah and Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona have joined a quiet revolt in the House that could slow some of President Obama's fast-moving priorities. The two are among 49 Democrats from congressional districts that backed Republican Sen. John McCain 's 2008 presidential race and whose support for the Democratic majority's progressive agenda is increasingly not assured. A dozen of them were among 20 House Democrats who voted against the $410 billion discretionary fiscal 2009 spending package (HR 1105) on Feb. 25. Another group later forced House leaders to sideline a contentious bill (HR 1106) to allow bankruptcy judges to modify home loans." They have succeeded in that, by the way.

Shaun Hannitty
“When the President said change what he really means is debt and a whole lot of it. Because that is what the Obamanomics is increasingly looking like.”

GLENN: That's right, we are happy socialists, we're all socialists now, don't forget, I know it because Newsweek magazine told me so.

Rush
Let me tell you who we conservatives are: We love people. When we look out over the United States of America, when we are anywhere, when we see a group of people, such as this or anywhere, we see Americans. We see human beings. We don't see groups. We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see -- what we see is potential. We look out across the country and see the average American, the person that makes this country work. We do not see that person with contempt. We don't think that person doesn't have what it takes. We believe that person can be the best he or she wants to be if certain things are just removed from their path like onerous taxes, regulations and too much government.

Well since I have been accused of quoting Rush and Hannity I figured what the heck here goes. Also included Glenn Beck. I also heard on the news that a number of democrats are concerned about too much porkus in the stimulus bill and trying to get a re-vote on the porkulus bill to get the pork out. I heard that about 60 percent of the population are concerned about too much spending.

Guess you can say I heard it from the grapevine. Because whatever source I use its usually the wrong one.



VERY PROUD CONSERVATIVE

[Amy Probenski]

There is something dumber than proclaiming, "I am a proud conservative."

What could be dumber? It would be saying, "I am a proud liberal."

Why? The first is simply dumb (I am influenced by the very intelligent discussion on tribalism we saw earlier on this Forum).

The second would be dumb and self-contradictory, for no liberal would wave a label as a substitute for persuasive argument.

Which is why you will never hear it.

[resigned]

Thank you, now we are refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. I love your wit. I do have to say that I am a person who believes in traditional beliefs – those beliefs have stood me well through out my life.

Therefore I am proud to be a conservative or traditionalist just as I am proud to be an American. But you are welcome to return to tribalism. Hope you have your feathers.

Still a Proud Conservative and American

[Juggler]

Great Ad !

[nudgewink]

Another sign of our times, Less-Habitat-for-Humanity

[Wise One]

And they said the IRS is cold, unfeeling, and heartless.

We were teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, so this might just the helpful boost we need.

Thank you, IRS! You can't get more cuddly than this.

[Anonymoose]

How about replacing the car horn with a cell phone de-activator that will force the maroon in front of or behind you to hang up and drive responsibly?

[resigned]

This was an article from the St. Petersburg Times Newspaper on Sunday. The Business Section asked readers for ideas on "How Would You Fix the Economy?" I thought this was the BEST idea. I think this guy nailed it!

Dear Mr. President,

Patriotic retirement:There's about 40 million people over 50 in the work force; pay them $1 million apiece severance with three stipulations:
1) They leave their jobs. Forty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.
2) They buy NEW American cars. Forty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed.
3) They either buy a house or pay off their mortgage- Housing Crisis fixed.

All National financial problems fixed!!!

How about replacing the car horn with a cell phone de-activator that will force the maroon in front of or behind you to hang up and drive responsibly?

I like this one. A while back I was on a sidewalk when a woman driving and talking on her cell phone ran up over the curb and onto the sidewalk only to go back onto the street and drive away. She just missed hitting a woman and her little boy. We were all so stunned no one thought to get a license plate number. I would like to see where they also did something about those people throwing cig butts out the window.

[coondog]

Two good ideas!

I'll quit and take the million (hopefully not in toxic assets), pay off the mortgages and buy that '69' Chevelle Super Sport I always coveted. Maybe, I'll buy a pack of cigarettes with whatever's left over.

And.....how 'bout we give everyone in Rockbridge County with a car a bumper sticker that reads "I brake for no #%$#* reason!" Then we put them on the New Jersey Turnpike for a mile or two. Cell phones or no, the mass carnage would keep Wolf Blitzer fired up for a week.

Coondog

[Wise One]

40 million people over 50 in the work force; pay them $1 million apiece

I like the tongue-in-cheek concept but of course the math doesn't work.

40 million $1 million payments = $40,000,000,000,000 = $40 trillion

The US GDP is about $14 trillion per year, requiring all all all money to be put in the hands of 12% of us, leaving the other 88 % of the population with nothing at all for about 4 years.

Maybe not a bad idea. 260 million people would die, solving all environmental problems too!

[resigned]

Ok WO can't you just let just one thing slip by. I knew I could have checked on the math but thought the concept cute or funny. Or whatever. Yes and I know the correct facts need to be posted. Sigh.

[nudgewink]

You may be a Taliban if . . .

1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer.
2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but can't afford shoes.
3. You have more wives than teeth.
4. You wipe your butt with your bare left hand, but consider bacon "unclean."
5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.
6. You are running out of people to declare Jihad against.
7. You believe that television is dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.
8. You were pleased to learn that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.
9. You've often uttered the phrase, "Nice cave."
10. You have nothing against women but believe that no man should own more than four of them.

[Juggler]

Finally!

Here's some useful advice we can all use to get through this tough economy.

I'll drink to that.

[fangz1956]

My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to 99 cents a can. That's almost $7.00 in dog money.

[crux]

Hello and pull up a chair for a while. I was actually pleased to find that there was an active, well sort of active, Forum, where folks from the County could participate... So I will, for a spell...

You?

You're Welcome!