coondog wrote: If Giffords had been a republican, I suppose
all the roles and arguments, false accusations and feigned indignation would be reversed as far as finger pointing goes.
I think the left needs to acknowledge a PATTERN of jumping to conclusions, blame shifting, and QUICK politicization of these kinds of tragic circumstances. The left got these ALL WRONG, quite notably in their assumptions that it "must be a right-winger", and the right never sought to blame the left, for the actions of crazy loons.
The immediate, MISPLACED over the top BLAME and SELECTIVE moral outrage, was disturbing.
coondog wrote:Crux, it's not that you don't attempt to become well informed. Can it be that you have simply have tunnel vision and are willing to accept whatever external imput that serves to suport that preconcieved view.
coondog wrote: And, yes there were immediate jump to conclusion opinions as to the nature of the influences behind those shotings.
coondog wrote:Not once, in the past two weeks have I seen Fox put up one example of somebody actually pointing a finger at someone as a direct cause. Not once!
coondog wrote:What should be disturbing is that it didn't even exist in the first place.
coondog wrote: It makes it very difficult to have a serious discussion when the underlying premise is false.
coondog wrote: Do you contend that abortion clinic bombings and church burnings are really leftists trying to frame the right? Or maybe they're just apolitical?
coondog wrote:Do we really know what influenced this guy?
coondog wrote: ...don't hthink we know anything about that for certain...about finger pointing while pointing fingers...(AND) The only person who has been right all along has been......Me!
Nope, your analogy is a good one. The greater the exposure to the deleterious agent, the greater the expected negative impact on health.crux wrote:Skin Cancer is a public health concern... You wouldn't be surprised if I told you that States with higher annual temperatures and percentages of sunshine had higher rates of severe sunburn would you?
I care plenty about those things. I also care about public responsibility and taking common sense steps to reduce public exposure of individuals to known hazards. Your references are garbage, referring irrelevantly (as righties always do) to crime. Most people are shot by ordinary people – friends, colleagues, and spouses – not by criminals.crux wrote:TRY to care a little more about Personal Liberty, Individual Rights, Self Defense and Personal Responsibility... references.
Wise One wrote:crux wrote: Most people are shot by ordinary people – friends, colleagues, and spouses – not by criminals.
Wise One wrote:States With Higher Levels Of Gun Ownership Have Higher Homicide Rates
This is a public health issue.
Wise One wrote:If I put a gun in my house, it is a statistical certainty that our chances of getting shot will go up. Yes, up!
I am Pro Choice on the ownership of guns. I feel strongly that it is your Personal Liberty and Right to choose for yourself whether or not to own a gun.Wise One wrote:Crux teaches that I should put a gun in my house to protect my family from criminals. But wait.
Wise One wrote:There is a crime with guns problem, but it is tiny compared to the "guns as dangerous object in the hands of ordinary citizens problem." The latter kill many, many more than the former. NRA, Republicans and righties refuse to discuss this, and try always always to get others to ignore the big problem it into oblivion by deflecting discussion into arcana...
ParkerLongbaugh wrote: ... uses the CDC's data from their 2001 survey (which was slammed for its political agenda back when they released it ...
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