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Re: BANG !

Postby Wise One » 2013 Jul 27 10:13

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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I think you are slipping...

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I am Treyvon Martin, NOT

Postby Crux » 2013 Jul 28 14:26

I learned a few new things here. Like about Skittles and Arizona Tea...

Ever hear of LEAN? Did you know TM had LIVER DAMAGE? Know the name Sherman Ware?

This story was huge, as a current culturally American event. It is thick with lessons to learn, but one has to know the facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1N3X6ovyAU

I read the comparisons with Emmit Till and Medgar Evers, and am aware of Obama's STRANGE identification with TM.
I had missed the comparison that comes at the end of the video. Until we know our history, we can but guess at destiny.

Know yours... :numc:

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Re: I am Treyvon Martin, NOT

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Re: BANG !

Postby Wise One » 2013 Aug 12 11:22

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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In the abundance of water the fool is thirsty...rat race.

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Re: In the abundance of water the fool is thirsty...rat race

Postby Wise One » 2013 Aug 12 21:19

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: BANG !

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Re: BANG !

Postby Wise One » 2013 Aug 14 10:43

This seems well researched, historically accurate, educational, and plausible. I probably won't get around to reading the whole thing, but thanks for the summary.

:coffee:
"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Whatever.

Postby Crux » 2013 Aug 15 18:34

"Cornell, a leading constitutional historian, shows that the Founders understood the right to bear arms as neither an individual nor a collective right, but as a civic right--an obligation citizens owed to the state to arm themselves so that they could participate in a well regulated militia."

Look. Individuals have the Right to Keep and Bear, and it was a recognized necessity, a duty even, for the individual and a collection of individuals to BE ARMED for both personal and collective defense. This is all really very simple Uji. The Individual Right was ensconced originally, and upheld recently. Folks can argue and have but to a great many, this has never been confusing or murky. Folks need to protect themselves, their loved ones and their communities... They need to, they do, and they have the Natural Right to do so.

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Re: BANG !

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2013 Aug 15 20:15

bovine excrement

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Which part Neck?

Postby Crux » 2013 Aug 15 23:44

You have thrown me for a loop Red...

What Cornell said, or what I said? Neck, do you believe in a natural individual right to self defense? Do you believe in effective means of self defense? Do you trust individuals with this right, and the tools necessary towards self defense?

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Re: BANG !

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2013 Aug 16 11:16

What you said, which was contradicted in part by Cornell.

This self-defense mania, bellowed so loudly by the right, is a manifestation of dysfunctional paranoia and has almost no place in a modern society. We have many institutions that are effective public safety mechanisms. Right wing ideologues pretend they do not exist and that everybody must be a gun-slinging cowboy as his first line of defense.

It is stupid, and dangerous, and every year it kills thousands of people that ought not to be sacrificed to this false god.

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Neck the Manic Man

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Re: BANG !

Postby Coondog » 2013 Aug 16 14:51

Champions of White Anglo Saxon Protestantism (republicans) are not too bright.

The 'minorities' are already out breeding them, yet, they seek to deny any methodology at curbing an expanding non-white population......the same ones they seek to disenfranchise by voter suppression throughout their shrinking domain.

With this in mind, insisting that these people all have unrestricted access to firearms seems to defy any semblance of a desire for self preservation.

Civilized people don't need to walk around armed with survival serving as a prime motivating instinct. As the Nape points out, civilized people instill institutional safeguards to insure insulation from bodily harm and neurosis.

Civilization with a whole lot of neurotic people shooting at each other is not civilized.

Repression and arming of people serves to only to break down civilization until ......... well, we're all Egyptians.

The purpose of possession of firearms by the citizenry, as instituted by those dieties known by the Tea Party as The Founders, was clearly to preserve the civilization against outside influences...not to destroy it from within.

Defense of basic human rights, social equality, freedom and liberty apparently applies only to taxes and not to people in the minds of conservatives.

The need for individual self defense will surely come when civilization has systematically been dismantled either through abuse of elements of society or through neurotic violence.

Republicans seem to be hell bent on both!

Coondog :curse:

When downtown (name any US City) begins to look like Cairo, blame it on Obama all you like...but it will be YOU they're after! Thanks to the NRA........they'll be well armed!

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Bovine Excrement

Postby Crux » 2013 Aug 16 17:35

:dontknow: It is what passes as gas from a gas bag.

I think of Dr. Ben Carson, Nikki Haley, Mia Love, Ted Cruz, Alan West, Tim Scott, Bobby Jindal... Republicans.


Just as poverty can be a lack of information or imagination, ignorance can be a lack or effort and care. Grow up 'dog. :coffee:

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Re: BANG !

Postby Juggler » 2013 Aug 17 13:26

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Hard to believe!

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Re: BANG !

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2013 Aug 18 12:16

I watched the video and came away with a different view than yours.

We need to keep guns away from people who feel it's OK to pick one up because they don't like the sound of a church power washer.

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Birds of a feather...

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