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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2014 Apr 02 15:20

My thinking is just fine.
I've got them pegged accurately and therefore am appropriately critical of them and their scams.
Their audience is not me, but those with mush for brains who swallow their every self-serving attack on all of us.
I'm sure you think torpedoing non-car transportation options is a lovely idea.

You're the George Constanza of the right-wing universe:
"What is the Opposite of the sensible thing to do? Whatever it is, I'm for it!"

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Kevsky » 2014 Apr 02 16:22

Here are the Facts against the AMP Mass Transit Proposal in Nashville TN

WHAT IS BRT/AMP?

The AMP is a proposed full-service 7.1 mile Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system that is being planned for Broadway/West End. It will begin at Five Points in East Nashville and extend to the Saint Thomas hospital area in West Nashville. This route was chosen because it was the only one that would qualify for Federal funds and without those funds the project will not move forward.

This is important because the proposed East/West Connector was not chosen because it was the best route. It was chosen because of the available Federal funds.

AMP FACTS:

FACT: The AMP is a proposed rapid transit bus route from St. Thomas Hospital in West Nashville down Broadway and through downtown to 5 Points in East Nashville that will cost a projected $175 million, or $25 million per mile, to build.

FACT: The AMP will travel from St. Thomas Hospital on the west side to 5 points in East Nashville. The city will tear out 2-2 ½ lanes of traffic and put buses and loading stations in the center lane. All parking will be removed, and there will be no left turns except at certain traffic lights. 16 new pedestrian lights will be added along the route, causing more delays.

FACT: All on-street parking along the route will be eliminated. Left turns will only be permitted at a few designated stoplights.

FACT: Traffic along West End will become far more congested, leading to greater frustration, longer travel times, and more pollution.

FACT: The AMP means 2 to 3 years of constant road construction along a busy corridor, threatening local businesses.

FACT: We support effective, sensible improvements to mass transit for Nashville. That's why we oppose the AMP.

FAQs

1.Why oppose the AMP? The AMP will create traffic problems along its route rather than resolving them. The AMP also represents an irresponsible investment of federal, state and local tax dollars because it does not address immediate public transit needs in Nashville—such as mass transit connecting the airport to other areas of Nashville, more service in areas such as North Nashville that are underserved, and better longer-range connectors to reduce interstate gridlock.

2.Who will pay for the AMP? The AMP will be paid for by federal, state and local taxes. The Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA) has applied for $75 million in federal funding, and Nashville has also requested $35 in state funding to help pay for this project. Nashville has not received a commitment of federal or state government funding for the AMP. State funding currently appears unlikely.

3.Has the AMP received funding from the federal government or the state of Tennessee? No. The AMP has applied for federal funding and requested state funding, but has not yet received a commitment of funding from either source. If the AMP does not receive federal or state funding, city planners will either have to consider lower-cost mass transit alternatives or ask local taxpayers to fund the entire cost of the AMP.

4.Where does the project currently stand? The MTA is waiting for the federal government to decide whether to award Nashville $75 million grant to help fund the construction of the AMP.

5.Does the AMP deliver bus service to a new area? No. The AMP serves a route that is already served by regular bus service. Believe it or not, that regular bus service will also continue along the AMP route, although it will be reduced to help underwrite the cost of the AMP.

6.Will the AMP attract additional bus riders? Not enough to justify its cost and impact. MTA projects only a 14% increase in riders over people who use the existing bus service along the West End corridor now. That’s only 63 more riders per day! Only 5200 riders are expected to ride the AMP in total, which comes to $33,653 per rider!

7.The AMP uses “dedicated lanes.” What does this mean? As currently planned, AMP buses will use 2 traffic lanes that will be closed to all other traffic, including other MTA buses. These lanes will run down the center of the street. AMP stops will also be installed in the middle of the street. At stops, the AMP will occupy the amount of space required for 3 lanes of regular traffic.

8.How will the installation of dedicated lanes for AMP buses affect other traffic? Lanes for car, truck and bus traffic will be much narrower in areas where dedicated AMP lanes are installed. Some lanes will be eliminated. Left turns will be allowed only at certain intersections. As a result, the AMP will increase traffic congestion along its route by forcing all other traffic into fewer and narrower lanes along much of its route. Skinnier lanes will also make for more difficult transit for emergency and other larger vehicles.

9.How many AMP stops are planned, and how will AMP stops affect other traffic? Up to 16 AMP stops are planned. Most AMP stops will not be located at intersections, so dedicated pedestrian lights will be added these stops. Current estimates are that 9 to 10 stops will need additional traffic lights. Adding 9 to 10 new traffic lights along the AMP route will slow traffic in already congested corridors.

10.Will on-street parking and bicycle lanes on West End and Broadway be eliminated by the AMP? Yes, the AMP will eliminate on-street parking and bicycle lanes along its entire route. Portions of the AMP corridor will function much like two separate one-way streets with the equivalent of a bus freeway running down the center of the street.

11.How will the AMP affect traffic entering the AMP route corridor from interstates and side streets? AMP buses running in dedicated lanes and will be capable of controlling traffic signals to avoid delays for bus passengers. This has the potential to slow all other traffic and to create traffic back-ups of cars and trucks seeking to enter the Harding/West End/Broadway corridor from interstates and side streets along the route.

12.Why was the St. Thomas/Five Points Route selected? Because of recent “upzoning” that allows for development of dense high-rise condominium and apartment complexes and townhomes, the Broadway/West End/East Nashville corridor is the only route in Nashville that qualifies for the federal grant program through which MTA seeks to fund part of the AMP’s cost.

13.But won’t more people want to ride the AMP? No studies support this claim! One major issue is that the AMP plan doesn’t account for the fact that most people travel on the corridor for one or two miles rather than using it to commute downtown. The AMP is thus not an option for most people who drive on West End and Broadway.

14.Where is the feasibility study for the AMP? No feasibility study was conducted. We have asked for one time and time again.

15.Isn't there already bus service along the proposed AMP route? Yes, and the buses are not running at capacity! AMP supporters claim the fact that the current slow, poor bus service means we need the AMP without pointing out that the same agency -- MTA -- will run the AMP.

16.Why don't we try improving existing bus service before building something expensive like the AMP? That's a good question to ask AMP supporters. We believe this should be tried before the AMP is built.

17.How much will the AMP cost to operate each year if it's built? Current projections indicate that the AMP will require a subsidy of more than $4 million a year. The exact amount will depend on how many people ride the AMP.

18.What do businesses and residents along the route think of the project? We believe more people oppose the AMP than support it, as measured by feedback we've received from people and neighborhood associations, Stop AMP website responses, yard sign requests, emails, etc., and feedback offered to Metro and MTA by people who attended events providing information about the AMP. When people understand what the AMP will do to the streets, businesses, residences and neighborhoods along its route, and the fact that it will detract from other transit services in Nashville because of its cost and the energy focused on it as the exclusion of improving regular bus service, most people don't want it.

19.What will be the environmental impact? The AMP will increase congestion by forcing all traffic to use fewer lanes all along its route. MORE CARS IDLING IN SLOW TRAFFIC = MORE POLLUTION!

20.Have other cities developed similar projects and were they successful? First, the AMP's projected initial cost is more than double what other cities have paid to create similar bus lines. In addition, there is sketchy data as to whether other projects have been successful at all. Governor Pat Quinn of Illinois said recently (8/27/13): “It is clear that the current mass transit governance system in Northeastern Illinois is not working for taxpayers and riders."

21.What is happening nationally on this issue? The Cato Institute says: “The effectiveness of local transit systems is undermined by federal subsidies, which encourage the construction of highly visible and expensive services such as light-rail trains to suburban areas despite the chronically low number of riders on those routes. Federal subsidies to transit advocacy groups and misguided environmental and labor regulations also encourage a large investment of taxpayer money in wasteful transit systems.”

22.Have residents and businesses been asked if they want this? No unbiased surveys or polls designed to explain the AMP and truly assess support for it have been conducted. The AMP route was selected with minimal public input; most Nashvillians thought the proposed "East/West Connector" would run along Charlotte Avenue.

23.Did people concerned about the AMP really have to file Freedom of Information requests to gain access to the materials supporting the AMP proposal? Yes, Freedom of Information requests were filed repeatedly to gain access to some reports upon which the AMP proposal is based. This is not how a publicly funded project should work. In addition, throughout the AMP planning process, citizens with valid questions about this project have been consistently been denied opportunities to ask questions, provide meaningful input and to get accurate information about the project's costs, benefits, traffic impact and drawbacks.

24.Won't the federal dollars available for the AMP go to some other city if Nashville doesn't get them? Nashville needs good, well-planned, well-designed, carefully thought out public transit. The AMP is none of these things. If we’re going to spend public funds--federal, state or local--on public transit, we should spend that money--our tax dollars--on projects that will truly serve the public rather than creating an expensive mess we will have to pay to clean up within a few short years.

http://www.stopamp.org/#!faqs/c112m
Lawmakers overwhelmingly approved a broad ban on mass transit projects in Nashville, moving ahead of their House counterparts, who have been working on a bill with fewer restrictions. The 27-4 vote followed a push by opponents of the project, including the libertarian group Americans for Prosperity, to bring about a Senate vote and keep proponents on their heels.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2014/03/27/tenn-senate-approves-bill-block-amp-bus-project/6956069/

The State Senate, with overwhelming bipartisan support, voted in favor of banning the AMP Mass Transit project.

But don't let facts get in the way. Better to use political rhetoric, hyperbole and slander.
Is there no evil that the Koch brothers will not commit in their pursuit of environmental destruction, decreased economic efficiency, pollution, and expanding our dependence on fossil fuels (which they own)?

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2014 Apr 02 17:10

All scraped from the Koch-funded stopamp.org.
The "facts" are distorted and/or cherry-picked to align with Republican opposition to damn near everything.
The web site is registered to Melissa Smithson, Communication Secretary of the Davidson County Republican Party.
Republicans want only more and more of the same, sole and expanded reliance on fossil fuels for automobile transportation.
The rest of us realize a better life and world for all of us is realizable by supporting a diversity of transportation and energy options.

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This is so tedious!!!

Postby Crux » 2014 Apr 02 19:15

The Tennessee Senate VOTED DOWN the rapid transit thingy 27-4. Only ONE of the 4 Senators that voted FOR the 125 million dollar bus was a DEMOCRAT. That means 3 REPUBLICANS voted FOR the bus thingy! You're FAILING the critical thinking part of this exercise my friend. There are 7 Democrats in the Senate and 6 of them voted AGAINST the bus!

AM I GETTING THROUGH YOUR THICK HATEFUL CLOUDED SKULL???

For the bus:
1 Democrat
3 Republicans

Against the bus:
6 Democrats
23 Republicans

Neck. Will you please get a grip you're embarrassing yourself constantly... Just be fair about reality PLEASE!
:pat:

Thanks Kevsky for taking the time and fighting the good fight.
Neck? go to bed! You have been BAD!

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Bigbux Stogeychomper » 2014 Apr 20 22:01

Have you seen all those TV ads by US energy interests promoting domestic gas (fracking and the Keystone XL pipeline.) Well, filthy rich moguls like myself admire them as excellent "greenwashing" efforts.

But I worry a little that the public won't swallow these little fibs of ours.

The Australian Coal Mining Company is doing a much better public relations job than we are. We need to use the same techniques here.

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Keystone XL

Postby Crux » 2014 Apr 21 08:26

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I think we can fit it in there somewhere... Fangz comes off as an ill informed reactionary. "The EVIL XL Pipeline"... Cripes.

Look at the map posted! Maybe bio fuels are the answer? No, not really. http://newsroom.unl.edu/releases/2014/0 ... rn+residue

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Political and Green?

Postby Crux » 2014 May 07 07:05

No the power players are tried and true "Professionals". Transparency? Not so much.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A unit run by President Barack Obama’s political staff inside the Environmental Protection Agency operates illegally as a “rogue law enforcement agency” that has blocked independent investigations by the EPA’s inspector general for years, a top investigator told Congress.

The assistant EPA inspector general for investigations, Patrick Sullivan, was expected to testify later Wednesday before a House oversight committee about the activities of the EPA’s little-known Office of Homeland Security.

The office of about 10 employees is overseen by EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy’s office, and the inspector general’s office is accusing it of impeding its independent investigations into employee misconduct, computer security and external threats, including compelling employees involved in cases to sign non-disclosure agreements.

“Under the heavy cloak of ‘national security,’ the Office of Homeland Security has repeatedly rebuffed and refused to cooperate with the OIG’s ongoing requests for information or cooperation,” Sullivan wrote in prepared testimony obtained by The Associated Press. “This block unquestionably has hamstrung the Office of Inspector General’s ability to carry out its statutory mandate to investigate wrongdoing of EPA employees.”

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"Triple Divide" & Tesla Tour in VA July 6th-10th

Postby MelissaTroutman » 2014 Jun 17 12:54

Hello Rockbridge!

Just letting you all know about an opportunity to see our acclaimed documentary about fracking in Pennsylvania, Triple Divide, in a few weeks in your area. The film is an 18-month investigation of the impacts and how they're being handled and is co-narrated by actor Mark Ruffalo.

We'll be at RC State Cinema 3 in Lexington on July 6th at 4PM and Jefferson-Madison Regional Library in Charlottesville on July 10th at 6:30PM. See a full list of screenings at http://tripledividefilm.org/screenings.

10,000 Miles. O Gasoline. Cross-Country Tour Of Fracking Investigation Will Challenge Your Ideas About Energy
Investigative News Team Screening ‘Triple Divide’ Across U.S.

What do fracking and the car of the future have in common?

This summer, communities across the Unites States will have the opportunity to witness investigative documentary Triple Divide about fracking in the Marcellus Shale, a feature debut of journalists Joshua Pribanic and Melissa Troutman of Public Herald.

The team will tour the U.S. in a Tesla Motors Model S, a long-range, all-electric sedan, and test the company’s nationwide Supercharger system where the electric cars can be quickly recharged for free. The directors aim to cross the U.S. using zero gasoline and emitting zero greenhouse gas pollution.

“Triple Divide is about how water and energy connect us all,” said Troutman. An investigation of impacts from fracking in Pennsylvania, Triple Divide has been called “a bombshell” and “best documentary on fracking” touring from June thru November thanks to a grant from Investigative News Network and Knight Foundation.

According to Pribanic and Troutman, who also co-founded the investigative news nonprofit Public Herald, Triple Divide reveals how one state’s ‘world-class regulations’ fail to protect people, communities, and the environment.

“The public isn’t seeing the full scale of impacts from fracking either because regulators are mismanaging the data or decisions are made based on politics instead of science,” says Pribanic. “The impacts we encountered in Triple Divide are systemic and growing, but we can learn from these experiences so that the stories of those interviewed are not in vain.”

“Pennsylvania has some of the best environmental laws in the country, but they aren’t being enforced,” says Troutman. “And major problems like the ‘Pressure Bulb’ effect from fracking, which we cover in Triple Divide, aren’t a part of state or federal regulations at all.”

Academy Award-nominated actor Mark Ruffalo co-narrates the documentary and added his voice to the project after seeing the film just weeks before its release. Ruffalo’s nonprofit, Water Defense, also investigates water testing and protection measures, and he is a co-founder of The Solutions Project.

Public Herald also seeks solutions to increase its sustainability, which is why the team chose Tesla Motors for its transportation. “Imagine crossing the country without using a single drop of gasoline,” said Troutman. “We chose Tesla because we want to test their technology, which is leaps and bounds ahead of other auto makers. We’ll share our reviews online, and those who attend screenings will get to check out the car in person.”

“We are thrilled Tesla recently open sourced its technology. It’s a philosophy Public Herald shares,” said Pribanic. With new solution projects like the #fileroom, Public Herald journalists are working with communities on the tour to build a website database of oil and gas files that’s entirely open sourced. “The #fileroom belongs to everyone and creates access to information that greatly benefits and can protect the public.”

Triple Divide’s namesake, the triple continental divide in Pennsylvania, is one of four highly unique watersheds in North America. It’s where three major rivers begin and flow to separate ends of the continent, providing drinking water for millions of people and hundreds of communities downstream.

The filmmakers will have screenings in West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, California, Colorado, Montana, and Michigan with stops in between. For a detailed list of screening times and locations, visit http://tripledividefilm.org/screenings. For video clips see TripleDivideFilm.org. Also follow@PublicHerald and #TripleDivide.

TRAILER, STILLS, AND REVIEWS
http://vimeo.com/ondemand/tripledivide/63571188
Reviews: http://tripledividefilm.org/about/reviews/
Photographs and stills from the film: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE3Tb8F

Here's the announcement about our tour: http://www.publicherald.org/archives/19 ... 1439341659

WV Public Radio has a spot about the tour you can listen to here: http://wvpublic.org/post/fracking-docum ... g-gasoline

Watch clips from the film on our YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... y-2hwB7JXR

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AP story on electric cars

Postby Crux » 2014 Dec 15 21:26

"It's kind of hard to beat gasoline" for public and environmental health, said study co-author Julian Marshall, an engineering professor at the University of Minnesota. "A lot of the technologies that we think of as being clean ... are not better than gasoline."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 5-15-01-37

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Wise One » 2014 Dec 16 09:56

Amazing. In your zeal to attack everything positive, you actually hit on some information that carries truth.

Yes, some of the "green" solutions man has advocated for and adopted have turned out to be anything but.

For example, in the past:
  • Smokey Bear and major programs of the National Park Service mobilized against forest fires, in retrospect about the dumbest "green" policy the country could have adopted.
  • A mandated gasoline additive ethanol is now known to be net damaging to the environment by nearly any measure. It is kept alive only by the power and money held by vested interests like ADM and the agribusiness lobby.
  • Another wrongheaded gasoline additive was Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether (MTBE) which polluted groundwater systems from hundreds of leaking gas station tanks.
  • Another touted "free and clean" source, hydroelectricity, is now widely recognized to be among the most damaging and environmentally costly ways to generate electricity. I ran "total cost" calculations on power from the Conowingo Dam, which killed the Susquehanna River shad fishery, and it turns out to be in excess of 20 cents per KWh, a totally noncompetitive price. The operator stays in business only by offloading his environmental costs to the public.
Your more recent examples demonstrate a need careful analysis. To the extent that electric cars run on coal and other fossil fuels, they may not be the winners they have been assumed to be, unless they do so by means that improve net overall system efficiency from ground to car. Renewable electricity sources, wind and solar, can turn electric car system efficiency positive.

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CLASSIC

Postby Crux » 2014 Dec 16 22:29

Wise One wrote:Amazing. In your zeal to attack everything positive, you actually hit on some information that carries truth.
:coffee:


:shakeh: Oh stop... It's like my assertion two posts up that the opposition to Keystone XL is pretty irrational given how many pipelines we have and the safety in using them generally. Look at that map AO of the pipeline system we have! My god man, we burn 14 million barrels a day. We should have safe efficient means to transport that stuff all over creation you know??? Pipelines serve an important role in that. Look at that map!

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RECORD LOW TEMPS

Postby Crux » 2015 Feb 17 10:07

The high temperature at Roanoke VA yesterday was 17 degrees... which
is a new record for the lowest maximum temperature for February
16. The old record was 24 degrees set in 1914. Official records
at Roanoke VA date back to 1912.


It's all Global Warming all the time no matter what! :pompom:

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Wise One » 2015 Feb 17 11:10

Willful ignorance in a race to Stupid.

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edit

Postby Crux » 2015 Feb 17 11:50

I meant to say MAN MADE global warming.... I don't get your post AO. I just QUOTED the weather notice, and commented on the FACT that no matter what happens, drought, excessive flooding, hurricanes, NO hurricanes, record highs and record lows, it's all evidence to some of AGW.

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby 1Centrist » 2015 Jun 19 13:32

A wonderful piece well worth the read:
The Pope’s Political Earthquake
The world might just be talking about Francis’ great treatise for years to come.

Do not read the comments, they'll make you cry.

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby 1Centrist » 2015 Jun 19 14:08

As a followup to my previous post. These will make you weep:
27 images that prove that we are in danger.

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Juggler » 2015 Jul 30 10:41

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I know that guy

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Wise One » 2015 Jul 31 18:16

I loved that film! The clip you referenced, plus this one, are my two favorites in the film.
Ellen Greene is terrific, and it's so sad she sort of dropped out of sight.

The film.


The stage production.
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green energy is expensive energy

Postby Crux » 2015 Aug 17 20:16

This story is TOO FUNNY. California. Ballot measure. Raise taxes on corporations to fund 11,000 GREEN JOBS EACH YEAR. After 3 years?

Know how many jobs have MAYBE been created??

1,700

maybe

http://apnews.myway.com/article/2015081 ... af60a.html