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Re: Environmental Villains?

Postby fangz1956 » 2011 Jul 23 09:09

Colombia: A Country Loses Its Glaciers

How sad and outrageous that these spectacular sights may well be gone forever.....vanished, disappeared, melted away.........by the middle of this century. Dang, that's only a short 39 years from now!

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The numbers are bleak....

Postby Crux » 2011 Aug 22 20:37

I say let the oceans rise 5 inches or a foot...move the "bread basket" north. Change is the only constant... Cripes.

On polar bears...

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Wise One » 2012 Mar 09 10:22

Goodlatte Again Attempts to Block Bay Restoration Efforts

In his continuing efforts to undermine Chesapeake Bay restoration, Congressman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) has introduced HR 4153 along with Rep. Tim Holden (D-Penn.). The legislation is another attempt to prevent the EPA from implementing the long-awaited, court-ordered Chesapeake Bay restoration plan known as the Chesapeake TMDL (total maximum daily load). The pollution diet under the TMDL was necessitated by the Bay states’ repeated failures over decades to meet agreed upon reductions for nutrient and sediment pollutants so as to clean-up the 90% of the Bay that is so polluted that the Clean Water Act is violated.

As Doug Siglin, the Chesapeake Bay Foundation’s Congressional affairs guru said in a statement,

“Congressman Goodlatte’s bill would undermine the pollution limits currently in place, derail clean-up efforts, and undercut the federal government’s role in making sure that all Americans have access to clean, swimmable, fishable waters. The federal government has a key role to play in the restoration of local rivers, streams, and the Chesapeake Bay, and we urge all members of Congress to steer well clear of this damaging legislation.”

Reps. Goodlatte and Holden appear to be handmaidens of the farm lobby as the legislation raises some of the very issues the American Farm Bureau and national lobbying arms of the grain and poultry industries have used to try and block Bay restoration plans in their federal law suit.

In February 2011, Rep. Goodlatte succeeded in attaching an amendment to the must-pass FY2011 continuing resolution to fund the federal agencies that would have prevented the EPA from implementing the Bay pollution diet under the TMDL. Our Senior Scientists and Policymakers for the Bay interceded and prepared and sent a letter to Congress on behalf of 60 Bay leader signatories opposing this outrageous effort. (See previous post: Goodlatte Amendment Is a Travesty for the Bay.)

These leaders include two former Governors, a former U.S. Senator, a former Congressman, current and former State Senators, a current County Council member, two former secretaries of Natural Resources from Virginia and Maryland, a former Secretary of the Maryland Department of Environment, top senior Bay scientists and conservation leaders. These signatories include Democrats and Republicans.

The amendment was rejected in the Senate and did not become law. (See previous post: Congressman Goodlatte and You.)

Now, we must fight yet another attempt to destroy ongoing efforts to once and for all clean-up the Bay and meet federal Clean Water Act requirements. We need to let Congress know that it is well past the time to face up to the reality of the need for ramped-up efforts to restore this great estuary.

If you disagree with this harmful legislation, tell Rep. Goodlatte how you feel by leaving him a message on his Facebook page, or
sending him a Tweet, to @repgoodlatte.

Let him know how you feel.

Gerald Winegrad is a former Maryland state senator and chairman of Senior Scientists and Policymakers for the Bay.
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We all know it.

Postby Crux » 2012 Apr 06 07:47

GM should have been allowed to go bankrupt and re-organize. We all know it too. Maybe they'd improved the VOLT...
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...from Nevin Batiwalla
Staff Reporter - Nashville Business Journal

If you're thinking about buying a fuel-efficient hybrid, electric or otherwise eco-friendly vehicle as a way to save money over time, do your homework — or be prepared to wait.

Buyers who choose Nissan's all-electric Leaf ($28,421) over its approximate gas-powered equivalent, Nissan's Versa ($18,640), will likely wait nearly 9 years until they break even, according to a new report by The New York Times that examines the cost of fuel efficiency.

For drivers of the Chevrolet Volt ($31,767), the wait is even longer— 26.6 years.

A few vehicles begin paying off relatively soon after leaving the dealership. Two hybrids— Toyota's Prius ($23,537) and Lincoln's MKZ ($33,887)— as well as Volkswagen's diesel-powered Jetta TDI ($25,242) all take less than two years before they start saving their owners money.

Check out this chart by the Times that breaks down the savings delay for many popular fuel-efficient models.

The high price tag of many fuel-efficient vehicles — including the Nissan Leaf, which will soon be made in Smyrna, Tenn. — is one reason consumers have yet to embrace them with open arms.

Nevin Batiwalla covers commercial real estate, construction, residential real estate, manufacturing and retail.
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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Sam » 2012 Apr 10 22:15

Friends am changing the subject. Anyone have any info on the fires? One is right near me
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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Coondog » 2012 Apr 10 23:06

Last I heard from one of the army of emergency service guys was it was between the interstate and the hunter access road and it was heading NE toward the top of the mountain. Not an optimal situation. Pets, livestock and family photographs are being evacuated from the potential path.

If that thing is near you.....you might want to put your valuables in the Packard in case you need to depart in haste. The wind is gusting and the smoke is not kind to the throat. Keep your eye on the ridge line and hope for rain! Firefighters are spread all over the Kerrs Creek area with the intent of protecting homes.

It's all very exciting ......... and scary!

Coondog

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Re: We all know it.

Postby Trend Setter » 2012 Apr 11 11:42

crux wrote:Buyers who choose Nissan's all-electric Leaf ($28,421) over its approximate gas-powered equivalent, Nissan's Versa ($18,640), will likely wait nearly 9 years until they break even ...
for the Chevrolet Volt ($31,767), the wait is even longer— 26.6 years.
Toyota's Prius ($23,537) and Lincoln's MKZ ($33,887)— as well as Volkswagen's diesel-powered Jetta TDI ($25,242) all take[b] less than two years...

To me this argues for sensibly taxing gasoline as the Europeans do. The payback times quoted above are about twice as fast in most of Europe, the reason that market penetration by efficient vehicles is greater there than here. We're shooting ourselves in the foot by not taxing gasoline as our peer countries do.

Reference on gasoline price

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Wise One » 2012 Apr 12 09:46

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Shooting ourselves in the foot?

Postby Crux » 2012 Apr 12 21:12

With cheaper gasoline? Hardly.

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby fangz1956 » 2013 Jun 23 11:51

Ever looked at someone and thought "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"?

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 Jan 13 14:49

Ever looked at someone and thought "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"?

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Crux » 2014 Jan 13 18:36

More Daily Kos? SNAP OUT OF IT FANGZ! Money don't grow on trees. Remember to the Leftist Progressive Socialist, redistribution and Green Schemes are GREAT, until you run out of OTHER PEOPLES MONEY!!

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Wise One » 2014 Jan 14 09:03

We'll stop using other peoples money as soon as polluters stop using other people's air, water, land, and biosphere.
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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Cannoneer » 2014 Jan 14 17:08

That's the trouble with you libs wise one. You're always ready to spend everyone elses money for what you feel is important.

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Crux » 2014 Jan 14 17:36

Wise One wrote:We'll stop using other peoples money as soon as polluters stop using other people's air, water, land, and biosphere.


No you won't.

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2014 Apr 02 13:26

Is there no evil that the Koch brothers will not commit in their pursuit of environmental destruction, decreased economic efficiency, pollution, and expanding our dependence on fossil fuels (which they own)?

Koch Brothers Quietly Seek to Ban New Mass Transit in Tennessee

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Re: Green, Green (Environment)

Postby Crux » 2014 Apr 02 13:48

This KOCH stuff is a telltale sign of a decided LACK of critical thinking.