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The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2015 Aug 29 10:36

Because Rockbridge County had only one vote against secession I'm wondering how you as fellow descendants of those Rockbridge citizens feel about the Battle Flag And the bad rap it's getting.
I'm proud of my Great Grandfather and his brothers who answered the call with the first and second Rockbridge Artillery and fought for States Rights and the right to leave a Union that was ignoring it's own constitution.
Are there any Southerners left in Rockbridge County?

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Sure the Flag thing is way overblown....

Postby Crux » 2015 Aug 29 18:20


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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2015 Aug 29 19:36

Well Crux I guess that you do not know your history.
Your reply is typical Yankee.
Did you know that five of the Union States were Slave states?
Virginia did not leave the Union until the State was ordered to raise troops to go into the Confederate States and put down the so called rebellion.
Did you know that Slavery did not end until the 13th amendment.
My ancestors were not slave holders. They were carpenters, wheelwrights, and farmers and they fought against an invading army that ravaged their homeland.
And I'm very proud of my Confederate ancestors.

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Re: The Battle Flag

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Crux » 2015 Aug 30 16:12


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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2015 Aug 30 17:27

Curx,
I have never thought that slavery was good, and my ancestors did not fight to maintain slavery. No person should own another person.
They fought against a vicious invader that came into their State and made war on civilians.
As for your ancestors, if they fought for States Rights they were wearing grey.
I think it would be a good idea for you to study the issues that brought on the war.
If you spend the time to look for it you may also discover evidence that "Honest Abe" orchestrated the battle at Fort Sumter.

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'preciate it

Postby Crux » 2015 Aug 31 07:19

Thank you. Have a good day.

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2015 Sep 12 01:25

Is there anybody left in Rockbridge county who gives a s--t about Virginia's stand in the war between the States, why the State sided with the Confederate States, or why the battle flag is being trashed?

Maybe you all believe the BS that's being taught in schools or maybe you have no idea what is written in the constitution about the limits it puts on the Federal Government.

Maybe I don't belong on this Forum.

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Re: The Battle Flag

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2015 Sep 12 18:16

Thank you Coondog, It's good to hear that at least one person on this forum has a respect for truth.
As a side note as to why it matters to me. if you cross the street from Washington and Lee to VMI you will see four cannons in front of Jackson's statue.
My great grandfather James Strickler and his older brother William Strickler were cannoneers on those guns at First Manassas and stayed with the First Rockbridge Artillery until the end. They were not slave holders and didn't fight to keep that rotten institution going. They believed the constitution gave any State the right to leave the Union in peace and were willing to fight for that right. And I'm a little touchy about people branding them as racists or claiming the banner they fought under is a racist symbol. It also upsets me to see racists waving that banner. It's not their banner and it should not be displayed by them.

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Crux » 2015 Sep 13 09:11


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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2016 Aug 30 00:11

THE SOUTHERN BANNER

It was not a racist symbol,
If you research it you'll know.
Where it was upon the field,
Showed the soldiers where to go.

A blue St. Andrews cross,
On a field of scarlet red.
Men of courage dressed in grey,
Followed where that banner led.

Their homes had been invaded,
By a ruthless Northern hoard.
Forcing Lincolns will upon them,
Using bayonet, fire and sword.

They rallied round that banner,
And they followed it with pride.
On a hundred battle fields,
Where so many of them died.

So don't disrespect that banner,
For the banner's not to blame,
When its being waved in hatred,
By some folks who'd bring it shame.

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2017 Mar 07 13:55

This is reality.



And still is.

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Mar 08 12:02

I read that article and it's just more of the same Bull S--t that's being pushed by people who don't know what they'e talking about.

Because this forum is in Rockbridge County, Virginia I thought you folks would know more about this subject than a bunch of politically correct northerners.

All of the Confederate States did not secede over slavery. slavery was the main issue for the first seven States that left the Union and formed their own government. The States never gave up the fact they were sovereign. Before the Constitution every state was a government unto itself. If you read article one of the constitution you will notice that The several States only gave up enough of their sovereignty to the Federal Government in order for it to function. They kept the rest.

As a nation the Confederacy requested the Union to remove its troops from all of the Southern forts and sent a three men to Washington on a mission to discuss peace between the two governments three months before the battle at Fort Sumter. The Lincoln Administration refused to meet with them. The Union had removed its troops from all but two forts in the South.

The South laid siege to Fort Sumter and Requested the Union remove its troops with a message that the Fort would not be fired on unless the Union Government attempted to resupply or reinforce it. In response the Union Government sent ships to resupply and reinforce the fort. The South fired first. Nobody was hurt in the battle and the Union Commander of the fort asked for permission to fire a salute before leaving and permission was granted. One of the cannons exploded, killing one man and wounding another.

As a result The Union Government sent notice to all States remaining in the union to raise troops to go into the Confederate States and force them back into the Union by force of arms.

Four States refused to do that because they recognized that as sovereign States they had a right to leave the Union. The four States are Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas and Tennessee. Five Slave States remained in the Union. My great grandfather and two of his brothers joined the First Rockbridge Artillery and a third brother joined the second Rockbridge Artillery. They did not have slaves and knew slavery was wrong but they did believe Virginia was a sovereign State and they fought against the Northern army that invaded their home land and I'm proud of them.

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2018 Sep 20 20:26

I recently learned that the Confederacy is not completely gone, and the Battle Flag is still in style.
If anyone on this forum interested in learning about it all you have to do is type in americana brazil on your computer.

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Wise One » 2018 Sep 21 11:29

Yes, South America has a .

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Re: The Battle Flag

Postby Cannoneer » 2018 Sep 21 15:48

SCREW YOU WISE.

Those people left the States because of the cruel treatment by a rotten bunch of people running the government during reconstruction.

Some of your posts indicate you are from Lexington.

With your hatred for everything Southern I wonder if your ancestors were carpetbaggers.

The Republican party from Lincoln's inauguration until the end of reconstruction was one of the most violent,

repressive, cruel, and corrupt ever on this continent. That's why so many decent people left the south during that time.

Including many of my relations.

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Re: The Battle Flag

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