Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction?

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 07 00:51

According to a poll conducted by the Pew Research Center in 2009 33% of scientists believe in God and an additional 18% believe a higher power of some kind was behind creation.
That's 51%

And it's still true that evolution is just guesswork.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Feb 07 11:00

Using "guesswork" to describe a disciplined field of study that has millions of real examples/data points, and rigorous analysis performed by thousands of scientists who have devoted careers to their work, is contemptuous and ignorant.

You might be interested in . You'll be right at home.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 07 12:53

Really? The Flat Earth Society. You really an over inflated pompous ass.

My point is even half of the worlds scientists are not sold on the idea that life just happened.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Feb 07 15:10

Wait.

You dismissed the theory of evolution with contempt as "guesswork."

But now you've changed the subject to how life "happened."

Make up your mind.

The fact of biological evolution is established beyond any doubt, and a solid theory consistent with those facts exists.

How the first living cell came to be is, for the time being, unknown ... even though some pretty good clues are under investigation.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 07 21:36

I've changed nothing. Evolution is based on the premise that life came from nonlife in the form of one cell and grew from there into all of the life forms that ever existed.
However you are right in thinking that I hold the whole theory in contempt.
And have little regard for the thought processes of those who accept it as fact.
As to the flat earth society, I've seen the curve of the earth from on high. My pilots license number is 1576126 single engine land.
I can be just as insulting as you.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Feb 08 14:44

Sorry, you're mistaken.

"Evolution" as used biology, refers to permanent changes carried on by descendents of the original living organism.
"Abiogenesis" is the spontaneous appearance of life from nonliving components.

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PS. One cell is life. Most of the living cells on Earth are contained in unicellular organisms. Your body comprises ten times more non-human cells than human cells.
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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 08 19:42

Abiogenesis is a relatively new I don't really want to call it a science but I guess I will. And It dosen't work either.

As for evolution, Darwin claimed it all started with a single cell. I'm only commenting on his claim. So what's your problem?

Evolution is still disputed by some very good minds.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Feb 08 22:41

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 09 10:27

No, checked on it and Darwin is not credited with saying how life began. So since you claim to be a scientist what would be your best guess?

One other question to you. Do you know of any real evidence that one species became another species?

DNA would suggest that procreation begets it's own kind and the small changes that you have mentioned would be worthless to any species unless they were beneficial and would not be passed along for several generations.

Evolution has far more questions than answers and cannot be thought of as anything more than speculation to anyone who uses their head for anything more than a hatrack.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Feb 09 12:39

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 10 10:44

Further research leads me to believe that Darwin suggested life started with a simple single cell.
However in order to confirm this I'm going to need to find a copy of his book the origin of life.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Feb 10 11:09

Good.

... when you find it, let us know.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 11 09:39

Still can't find where Darwin said it, but you did a couple of posts ago.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Feb 11 12:44

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby nudgewink » 2017 Mar 05 10:33

tried to pull Donald Trump's leg. He didn't bite.

Instead, a hundredfold, claiming that people have been conducting business for "hundreds of millions of years."

People have only been around for about a million years. What a doofus.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Apr 20 11:50

This is of why a reasoned responses to Cannoneer's views on evolution have essentially no chance of succeeding.

In summary, providing facts and debunking falsehoods are a waste of time on anti-science religionists. Only emotional arguments stand any chance at all, and then only if emotional points somehow relate to their strange world-view.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Juggler » 2017 Apr 21 23:29

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Wise One » 2017 Jun 08 13:12

An evolutionary biologist has used the data available to create an .''

It shows changes from a land-crawling quadruped Pakicetus, over millions of years of aquatic adaptation, into the modern sperm whale, and then plays the animation back in the reverse direction.

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Amy Probenski » 2017 Jun 30 19:57

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Re: Evolution, Is it Fact or Fiction

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Jul 03 20:42

No Amy, you don't. It takes thinking and the ability to seperate facts from Bull s--t.

And wise, that's a cute cartoon but its only speculation and guess work.













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