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Neck-aint-red
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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2014 Sep 22 20:55

Bankruptcy, if everything goes to hell, has been available for a new start for a long time.

Well, it used to be. Now, no more, unless you are very wealthy.

Disgusting. Wealth and power have hijacked our country, and the wealthy are now completely free to screw everybody else.

If the poor screw up, well screw them.

If the wealthy screw up, well dammit, we'll force the poor to bail them out under a bankruptcy law that only the wealthy can avail themselves of.

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Bah!

Postby Coondog » 2014 Sep 23 17:04

Some sage sociological sycophant once said that what we have in this country are the wealthy and the soon to be wealthy. Or some such.

One supposes that makes Coondog one of the soon to be wealthy. One also supposes that the concept of soon is one of relativity. There is soon in terms of the age of the universe and soon as in any second now. The point is that everyone born into this illustrious country has a chance.....an equal chance to become successfully wealthy.

It just takes hard work! Hard work and a Powerball Ticket.

The fact that one's chance of becoming wealthy is about 1 in 175,223,510 on any given Tuesday or Saturday should not deter one from the belief that.....yes, anyone can make it in America. Just not necessarily in this lifetime.

Coondog :dontknow:

I'd like to live as a poor man with lots of money.
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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Buck Turgidson » 2014 Sep 29 21:29

Everybody knows that teabaggers suck Koch.

Here's a short list of why everybody should worry about this evil family, and how they are damaging us all:

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Is this neccessary?

Postby Crux » 2014 Sep 30 17:50

Buck Turgidson wrote:Everybody knows that teabaggers suck Koch.

This above, is not a healthy or appropriate post Stonewall. I would like it if you would encourage Buck to self censor...

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Postby Amy Probenski » 2014 Sep 30 23:23

Hmmm. I would agree that it is kind of shocking and crude, at least on first reading.

But reading it again, it seems to redeem itself. It's a clever pun, it accurately portrays tea party organizations to be subsidized by the Kochs, and it goes on to point to useful references

Stonewall, I say leave our Buck alone.

He means well. He just needs to go to finishing school.

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Re: Follow The Money!

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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Bigbux Stogeychomper » 2014 Nov 19 23:01

Finally, a campaign me and the boys can get behind enthusiastically!


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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Juggler » 2014 Dec 13 12:35

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Good Journalist on TARP

Postby Crux » 2014 Dec 15 09:36

"Here’s how the New York Times relates the cromnibus skirmish to bailout politics: “The liberal base of the Democratic Party, led by Ms. Warren, also found itself in an unlikely alliance with the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party. Both opposed the Wall Street bailout of 2008 and feared that the spending measure would not only provide a bounty for big banks but would also help cause another economic crisis.”

Both opposed the Wall Street bailout of 2008?

One wonders which of these famous progressives the New York Times has in mind when it states — as uncontested fact — that “the liberal base of the Democratic party” “opposed the Wall Street bailout of 2008.” Elizabeth Warren did not oppose the bailout per se, though she was critical of the way the Treasury Department implemented it. The bailouts were enabled by the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, which enjoyed the support and votes of Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, Senator Joe Biden of Delaware, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senator Charles Schumer of New York, Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, Representative Jesse Jackson of Illinois, Representative Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas, etc. The people who actually opposed bailouts by voting against bailouts were not in the main progressives, but were disproportionately conservative Republicans: Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, Representative Michael Burgess of Texas, Representative Jeff Flake of Arizona, Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas, Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina, etc."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/3 ... n/page/0/1

Kevin D. is good... Those TEA PARTY TYPES have it right!
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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Coondog » 2014 Dec 15 11:25

It is refreshing to find a crux post with relatively accurate information in it. :clap:

Whether the bailout was a good idea or not, the Bush Administration sold it as a necessary, life saving procedure to prevent Armageddon.
Had the democrats been prone to the current republican mantra that anything Bush wanted must be defeated, there would have been no bail out and companies like AIG and Citi Bank would not be raping and plundering the citizenry with amplified zeal.

Would Armageddon have ensued? Maybe. Maybe not.

There may even be some credibility to the idea that sacrifices must be made to ensure the continuity of American corporate interests for the economic stability of the country. But, Elizabeth Warren's assessment is spot on concerning the influence of corporate entities in government policy. After 6 years of very bad economics, we have managed to crawl back to some semblance of stability while corporate profits of companies bailed out by the sacrifices of the average citizen have soared.

They created a crises and profited by it. They are now being given the opportunity to do it again with legislation they have written themselves.

Massive Military spending is also enhanced within the same legislation. A military that is sorely utilized to protect those corporate interests on a global scale.

Yep! Democrats and Republicans alike are securely in the pockets of Corporate America. We can only acknowledge which bag of rats continually introduces this type of legislation and which bag or rats rails against it......both ultimately adopting it as a necessary way of doing.....business.

We the People are Just Pawns in the Game of Life

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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Trend Setter » 2014 Dec 15 13:13

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Re: Follow The Money!

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We are agreed!

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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Juggler » 2014 Dec 18 16:13

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...this what you mean?

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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2014 Dec 19 15:36

No, I think he means the exact opposite.
The picture you posted shows people are sitting at the bottom, with little prospect of rising because the scum has blocked their way.
The scum are Billionaires who have a thousand tax dodges enabling them to pay lower tax rates than the poor, etc.
The scum are Billionaires who pull out all stops to keep people at the bottom, at the bottom, refusing to pay a living wage because it would threaten their fifth house and second yacht, and private jet.
But because the people in your picture are black and have the temerity to cry "injustice" you will revile and hate them.
That's what radical conservatives do.
Always have. Always will.

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...billionaires?

Postby Crux » 2014 Dec 19 20:45

Dude. You are INCOHERENT. :pat:

There are BLACK conservatives, there are POOR conservatives,
there are conservative WOMEN and CONSERVATIVE gays.


Merry Christmas I hope you get a clue for a present from Santa, or Auntie Nudge...

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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Wise One » 2014 Dec 20 09:11

There were Jewish Nazis.
There are albino African Americans.
There are redheads who are left-handed and weigh over 300 pounds.
There are liberal Mississippians.

Only an idiot would hold that they carry general significance as accurate representatives of their larger class.

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We are talking about conservatives.

Postby Crux » 2014 Dec 21 08:26

AO thinks that alll conservatives are evil racists, and Hates-Red-Necks thinks all billionaires are conservatives! Then AO has this to say:

Wise One wrote:There were Jewish Nazis.
There are albino African Americans.
There are redheads who are left-handed and weigh over 300 pounds.
There are liberal Mississippians.
Only an idiot would hold that they carry general significance as accurate representatives of their larger class.


We could go on and on with his unhelpful list but he does illustrate a nice point. Folks like him just LOVE to break down all People into groups.
Tribes if you will. Folks on the left tend to put individuals into groups, and pit them against each other. They assign group-think identities.

CLASS
Minority

AO says "Only an idiot would hold that they carry general significance as accurate representatives of their larger class."

Majority/Minority/Class/Tribe/group-think/conformity

The healing of Hates-Red-Necks, and other angry bigots like AO will come when they stop their over prejudicial bigotries,
and uphold the individual as a free actor in a free society regardless of ethnicity, sexual orientation, political philosophy etc.


It will be the healing of the Nation! :beer:
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Merry Christmas again and again and again...

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Re: Follow The Money!

Postby Kevsky » 2014 Dec 21 08:53

There were Jewish Nazis.
There are albino African Americans.
There are redheads who are left-handed and weigh over 300 pounds.
There are liberal Mississippians.

Only an idiot would hold that they carry general significance as accurate representatives of their larger class.


From Wise One;

Conservative Republicans are, at their evil core, racists. They demonstrate it in so many ways, with complete consistency and without shame. Until they get caught. Evidence?

This week's resignation by Elizabeth Lauten, aide to a Republican congressman and a professional communications director slurred Obama's teenagers, for Pete's sake.


And only an idiot would judge and categorize an entire group of people based on the actions of only one person. Only an idiot would believe that the actions of one person would be sufficient evidence to implicate millions of other people and than have the audacity to suggest Conservative Republicans are prone to become Nazis. My parents lived under Nazi-controlled occupation and than Soviet-controlled occupation. Both came to the U.S. and became solid Conservative Republicans.

They condemned the Nazis for their belief that "All Jews are evil" which led to the extermination of millions of Jews.

They condemned the Soviets for their belief that "All Intellectuals, all business owners, all people of faith and all citizens whose beliefs do not mirror those of the Party were evil" which led to the extermination of tens of millions of people.

And they, and I, would condemn any notion that millions of people are "evil" based on the actions of one person or even a few persons.

The formation of totalitarian thought does not originate in Liberal or Conservative ideologies but rather in ideas of people who believe that any belief that does not support their own beliefs is "evil" and that any group of people who holds beliefs counter to what they believe in are "evil".


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