Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Wise One » 2016 Dec 09 12:49

Here's on Third Party voters.
Voting a third party in Virginia, in retrospect, was a statement without negative significance.
In other states, not so much.
Thank you, Third Partiers, you gave us goddamn Donald Trump.
You (and we all) will pay for your choice.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby fangz1956 » 2016 Dec 10 07:36

Nope....3rd party voters did not give us Trump. We will not stand for that old, worn out media lie.

Look to the number of Democrats who did not vote.......at all. had the DNC not been hell-bent on coronating a queen instead of fielding a candidate that the voters could rally behind, we wouldn't be in this damn mess.

3rd party voters will not take the blame for this. The blame belongs to the elitist party insiders coupled with an idiotic and corrupt media.


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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Wise One » 2016 Dec 10 09:48

You and I agree on Dem/Hillary flaws. Where we disagree is in the weighing of those flaws against alternatives.
For me, all things considered, she was the best option on the table for the country. It was not at all a close call.
The passive "didn't vote" faction is regrettable and is deserving of condemnation.
But the third party "did vote" faction actively made a choice with a dire consequence.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Cannoneer » 2016 Dec 15 09:59

Cheer up folks, we are finally going to have a federal government that puts our country and it's citizens first.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Juggler » 2016 Dec 18 14:30

Our last chance to avoid the death of the United States of America.


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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Cannoneer » 2016 Dec 18 15:09

If that happens we will truely be a nation in turmoil.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby fangz1956 » 2016 Dec 19 15:26

WO......

On some of this, we will have to agree to disagree for the time being.

Meanwhile, consider

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Cannoneer » 2016 Dec 19 18:49

Today, December 19,2016, We the people won, not the Hollywwood elite who did their best to overturn the election.

Again I wouldlike to say to all you left wing liberals that I hope you all enjoy the next four years as much as I've enjoyed the last four.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Wise One » 2016 Dec 19 22:11

Cannoneer: Enjoy your "victory" party while it lasts. When Trump's bill arrives for you, you will not be so happy. Obama was amazingly effective in repairing the extreme damage done to the country by the irresponsibility of the GW Bush years, we've climbed out of the financial crash, have achieved essentially full employment, the stock market (key to many retirement incomes) has never been higher, and the Constitution has been protected against many Republican assaults. Obama has a place in history as one of the presidential greats.

Fangz: I hear you, and our mutual respect is solid in the face of minor differences of opinion. Yes, the voter suppression described is as effective in stealing elections as it is disgusting. BTW, while I agree with much of the Ring of Fire content, I find their format/delivery/on-camera performances off-putting. Is it just me?

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Cannoneer » 2016 Dec 19 23:02

Dream on not so wise one.

Lets see what changes happen after January 20, That will be a double happy day for me.

Lee, Jackson day and Ttrump being sworn in.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby fangz1956 » 2016 Dec 20 07:21

WO......

It's not just you. I find their on-camera stuff a bit lacking. They could use just a wee bit of polish.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Cannoneer » 2016 Dec 20 09:30

Fangz,
Do you mean Lee Jackson day?
I toast the day but I've never seen it celebrated by anyone else.
My Great-grandfather and his brothers were cannoneers in the first and second Rockbridge Artillery. My dad and I were also cannoneers. I guess it's a family tradition for a Strickler in my family line to be a cannoneer. Robert E. Lee Jr. also served in the first Rockbridge Artillery.
If you know your history, you know why I'm proud of them.

I even wrote a poem to say what I feel.

They believed the States were sovereign,
And each State hadd every right.
To withdraw from the Union,
Leave in peace without a fight.

But Abe would not allow it.
Told the South that they must stay.
He told them if they tried to leave,
He was going tomake them pay.

The Southern men responded,
They said this isn't right.
If you try to keep- us in by force,
Then we are going to fight.

These sovereign States belong to us,
Invade them and you'll see.
We'll fight as long as we can stand,
To keep- them safe and free.

The South was short if everything,
That any army needs.
Except for blood and honor,
And the men's courageous deeds.

They won of the battles,
Though outnumbered by their foes,
These loyal Southern slodiers,
In their torn and tatterd clothes.

And when they saw their cause was lost,
They still fought all the way.
And I'm proud to be descended,
From a soldier who wore grey.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Wise One » 2016 Dec 24 14:12

Thanks for an exhaustive (and exhausting) reply. It clearly took effort. I acknowledge and appreciate it.

However it will not surprise you that our interpretations of facts, and items better describable as opinion, differ.

1. It is as unfair to say that Democrats' mistakes 8 years prior caused the crash/recession, as it is to say that Republicans' get credit for repair for their few weeks before Obama took over. It was a huge task and required his entire term.

2. I'll take modest and sustained growth any time over boom and bust cowboy-cycles that punish the poor and reward the rich.

3. Conservatives always raise the "labor participation rate" to deflect from the accepted measure of employment used for a century. It's bogus. We have an aging population and a growing off-the-books economy. Yes, employment really is good, especially considering demographics etc.

4. Stock market. When a Democrat has a clear and indisputable success, conservatives will try to steal the credit. Nice try.

5. Your list of Constitutional "violations" is mostly gas baggery, mountains out of mole hills. I don't have time to go through them, sorry. You ignore Biggies like failure to hear and vote on a SCOTUS nomination, and other assaults.

6. My reviews of Obama foreign policy are good if not great. It's a tough world. But any fair minded person would have to acknowledge that Obama is head and shoulders above W. Bush who basically caused disasters that even today linger as difficult international problems.

7. Obamacare is a good step forward, has achieved some of its aims, and needs additional changes to address problems that have become clearer. The drug price giveaway to Pharma CEOs is unforgivable, and the insurance industry adds no value to American health care. But it is madness to assert that were we better off before Obamacare than after.

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Wise One » 2017 May 01 22:24

People are already thinking about the next election. I'm so happy that finally we have a potential candidate in Virginia who will take on the gun nuts.

and I hope he wins.

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Funny Business if NH

Postby Crux » 2017 Sep 07 20:13

Interesting reports out of New Hampshire.

Same day registration is allowed in NH....

@ 6500 folks voted with out of state ID in the 2016 election.

10 months later, @5200 have NEITHER obtained a NH driver's license/ID, NOR registered a vehicle in the state.

(@ 200+ vehicles registered and @1200 NH IDs issued to that UNIVERSE of voters)

Remember, Kelly Ayote lost by only @1100 votes.

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Antinuts Unite

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Re: Your Election May Last more than 4 Hours

Postby Crux » 2018 Jan 08 16:16


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Time to belly up to the bar....

Postby Crux » 2018 Oct 18 08:26

....or get your butt to the polls!

Elizabeth Warren is doing her part to clarify the political landscape, with 3 weeks to go. She has her eye on the vote of many here, in 2020.

She was goaded into actually doing DNA TESTING to try to verify her Indian Heritage and the genetic muscle for those "high cheek bones"!

What did we find out? Well, she is perhaps between 1.6 and .009% "Native". That is to say she might just be, 1/1024th "Indigenous". :thumbup:

Indigenous WHAT you ask? Well, not Cherokee, or Deleware. No, the STANFORD expert had to use "Peruvian, Colombian and Mexican DNA"...

See there isn't enough Native American/Cherokee/Delaware DNA to do the study, apparently. We now know where she got those cheekbones!

GUESS WHAT! We also know that Warren is much more verifyably 1/32 TENNESSEE MILITIA, through her great-great-great grandfather. WHO?

Jonathon Crawford, who was actually on the "trail of tears" with the militia, guarding and guiding the captives to their captivity, or death...

WELL, THAT CLEARS THAT UP.

So back to the 2018 midterms: Blue wave or Red trickle? I say Red Wave, Red October, blue trickle. Seriously, the GOP will likely pic up 4 seats, maybe 3 or 5 in the Senate, and in the House, the GOP just might keep control. Nate Silver at the 538 blog gives it a 25% chance. I will take that, as he had Hillary winning by 99% with 3 weeks to go.

VOTE RED AND VOTE AMERICANISM/CAPITALISM not pukey globalism/socialism. Cheers.
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