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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2013 Dec 13 00:45

Jeez, Crux takes offense at everything and anybody, running on and on with his diatribes.
Give Stonewall a break. He's just trying to keep the Forum looking spiffy.

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Kevsky » 2013 Dec 13 07:51

The capacity to cherry pick the most egregious behavior by some individual and extrapolate your interpretation of that to include, in this case, everyone to the "left" of your extreme, radical point of view (which is just about everybody) is exactly why nobody but your fellow radical extremists give any credence to any of that hyperbolic gibberish.


It is a radical point of view to note the hypocrisy (in the Hypocrisy Liberal Style Topic) of a well-known Liberal? I thought that's what this topic was for. Interestingly, Jane Fonda has been an icon of the left for decades, has received the support from the left and has received virtually no criticism from the left for her visit to Vietnam or of her statement that the POWs were "military careerists and professional killers" who are "trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to the law". She has never been condemned by the left for her actions but has done quite well in left-wing circles.
In 1981, she was awarded the Women in Film Crystal Award.

In 1994, the United Nations Population Fund made Fonda a Goodwill Ambassador.

In 2004, Fonda was awarded the Women's eNews 21 Leaders for the 21st Century award as one of Seven Who Change Their Worlds.

In 2007, Fonda was awarded an Honorary Palme d'Or by Cannes Film Festival President Gilles Jacob for career achievement. Only three others had received such an award – Jeanne Moreau, Alain Resnais, and Gerard Oury.

In December 2008, Fonda was inducted into the California Hall of Fame, located at The California Museum for History, Women and the Arts.

In December 2009, Fonda was given the New York Women's Agenda Lifetime Achievement

So I believe I am very correct to associate Hanoi Jane as an example of a Progressive Liberal as, apparently, Progressive Liberals do.

Interestingly, you were very silent in regards to a post whereby "the capacity to cherry pick the most egregious behavior by some individual and extrapolate" the interpretation of it to include everyone to the right was not called in to question.

Open minded are you or marching in lock stop?


Re: Crash / Recession!

Postby Wise One » 2013 Dec 11 11:00
This is what happens when people foolishly entrust institutions of real value to right wing ideologues.

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Re: LEAVE CRUXY ALONE!

Postby Crux » 2013 Dec 13 08:15

coondog wrote:These rambling, disassociated discourses are hard enough to decipher without scrambling them up any further.

And.......how would one decide what thread they belonged in, anyway?

Coondog votes to let them lie, like sleeping dawgs.

Treasure the artistry and masterful insight of each post in it's time and place and in it's entirety......unsullied by editorial influence....untouched by human hands.

Coondog :encore:


Thanks.

Kevsky wrote:I actually agree with the Coondog. Let's agree to leave the posts alone. The posts on this forum constitute the very nature of the poster's ideas and mentality. Let the individual poster be judged by what they have written.... misspellings, syntax errors, content and all. Only vulgarity and obscenity should be removed from the postings as this is a public forum.



Thanks.

Neck-aint-red wrote:Jeez, Crux takes offense at everything and anybody, running on and on with his diatribes.
Give Stonewall a break. He's just trying to keep the Forum looking spiffy.


You don't get it do you Hates.

coondog, my philosophical blood brother (adversary) and Snakeboy (kevsky) get it.

I don't need my posts to be "spiffied". Obscenities and vulgarities I get. An Administrator (moderator), who let's participants call other participants "Aholes", or "Effing this and that's", and then DELETES my criticisms BOLDING and ENLARGING the QUOTES so as to shame, who removes the "patriotic smiley" simply because I wrap myself in it...

:coffee: (too much coffee could be your problem AO)

...deletes my Middle East Issues thread, cancels my Demonomics thread and rolls it into another, all while this whole forum is FULL of "slam the evil right-wing" threads, and then cuts my threads in HALF, deleting content along the way, reposts those TWO editorialized posts IN MY NAME on two threads, and even ADDS MY SIGNATURE to one of them...

:pat:

You don't get do you Hates-red-necks... :shakeh: You are one who has cast about "effing this's and that's".
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This is ODD behavior at the very least.
I think it is more directly CENSORSHIP by the Admin of the Rockbridge Forum.

It is born of bias and that is clear.

I will delete and soften my criticisms on this and the last post, if Stonewall agrees to BACK OFF.
I will say this about meanness, AO whether he is Stonewall and Uji rolled into one or not, is anonymous to me.

I don't care who he is in LIFE. I wish him well as I do everyone here. AO has actually PUBLICLY tried to hurt ME.

He knows it and I know it. I bet my bottom dollar this is a pattern...

I try very hard to say NOTHING that I am unwilling to say to ANYONE out in the real world. I am more circumspect just like all polite people, but I do not shrink from my words here on this forum. I choose anonymity to be able to DIG into these tough issues. They are the heart and soul of our humanity. Based on the attacks I recieve, and I am taliking about the SPIRIT of those attacks, I am correct to seek anonymity. What we do here, to argue, debate, or as so many do like you Hates, just HIDE behind bumper stickers, is ALL IMPORTANT.

I stand behind my words, but as Stonewall so capably demonstrates, WORDS can be twisted and used against you.

Society is at stake. Our basic human rights are at stake. Philosophy matters and so does REALITY. We can be clever, witty, dry, or HIDE. I lay it out. I take the shots. I draw the line when AO or whoever he is, Stonewall, or whoever actually bears me ILL WILL. I care deeply about Rockbridge County, my home. I love children and a wife. I have to make a LIVING and pour myself into that as well. This is about more than "keeping the site spiffy". I have been single out in a way that is OBVIOUS.

Back off. Or carry on without me. AO (stonewall you too) make the choice. What is in your HEART?
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crux

(ps...coondog, you understand me JUST fine my friend. What you can't admit is that I confound you. I show you again and again where and how badly you fall down in the field of your biased flowering. You are a real FRUITCAKE you know that?)

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Coondog » 2013 Dec 13 12:22

crux says:
What you can't admit is that I confound you.

See.....that's where you're wrong. You confound the Coondog a'plenty!

Now, as to Hanoi Jane.......

Kevski says:
She has never been condemned by the left for her actions but has done quite well in left-wing circles.

Don't know where you were back the good old late 60' and early 70's but Coondog can tell you where he was. Assuredly NOT in Viet Nam. Never got invited. High lottery number. (only lottery the old CD ever won....which makes up for never winning another one ten fold).

You may be assured that, even among a great many anti-war, subversive activists of the time (including this one), we were not all so fond'a Jane. Some acts just go too far and, as in her case, proved to be anti-productive and harmful.

Remember my admonitions to you......you were informed that all liberals do NOT march in lock step....and you can always believe the Coondog o such matters.

Now, Jane basically redeemed herself with her role in Klute. Woof! She has engaged in humanitarian efforts (are they only progressive liberal concepts?) probably less in recompense for Hanoi as for Electric Horseman.

Yet, nobody is good ....or bad all the time (even the adorable Coondog gets itchy under a full moon). And nobody can be singled out as an example of the views or character of all progressive liberals.

But, thanks for the flashback! Make puppies.....not war!

Coondog

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Juggler » 2013 Dec 22 07:54

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Facts do matter...

Postby Crux » 2014 Jan 21 14:10

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 21302.html

This short and nice piece by one of the most hated kinds of men in the U.S.

A black conservative, Thomas Sowell. Enjoy...

Little Brother, have you EVER read anything by this man?

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Wise One » 2014 Jan 21 22:02

"Hated"? I don't think so. A better word would be "Disdained."

He's disdained, appropriately so, for the poor quality of his arguments. They just don't hold water.

Sowell wrote:President Obama seems completely unaware of how many of the policies he is trying to impose have been tried before, in many times and places around the world, and have failed time and again.

Bullshit because he does not identify which policies he's talking about, and bullshit because many of Obama's policies work quite well where they've been implemented elsewhere.

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a couple things

Postby Crux » 2014 Jan 22 09:47

First his piece is short. One little page. Sowell has written voluminously, on a range of socioeconomic topics over a LOOOONG carreer.

Secondly, right after what you quoted and then criticized for lack of examples, he said this: "That was tried in the 19th century, in communities set up by Robert Owen, the man who coined the term "socialism." Those communities all collapsed.

It was tried even earlier, in 18th century Georgia, when that was a British colony. People in Georgia ended up fleeing to other colonies, as many other people would vote with their feet in the 20th century, by fleeing many other societies around the world that were established in the name of economic equality.

But who reads history these days? Moreover, those parts of history that would undermine the vision of the left -- which prevails in our education system from elementary school to postgraduate study -- are not likely to get much attention."

Thirdly your choice of WHAT to criticize is interesting as Sowell deals with quite a number of items. I never expected you to like the content, but Thomas Sowell is a compelling voice that should be considered by good-natured positive-minded truth-seekers who grapple with these issues.

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Re: a couple things

Postby Wise One » 2014 Jan 22 13:27

Crux wrote:... he said this: "That was tried in the 19th century, in communities set up by Robert Owen, the man who coined the term "socialism." Those communities all collapsed.

I did not miss that. I saw it and dismissed it as rhetorical dog poop. [apologies to Coondog whose leavings are admirable and probably don't even smell]

The Obama administration has no programs or legislative proposals to set up socialist communities. None.

Now I'm aware that conservatives see socialism everywhere in everything, except when billionaires get caught stuffing more of our money into their pockets. They are insanely wrong.

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Not a real stretch....

Postby Crux » 2014 Jan 22 15:23

The transformation of a NATION is what he is after as he's stated...

Unions, welfare state, "spread the wealth around" redistribution, universal healthcare, collective responsibility, public bailouts for private companies, charter of negative liberties, "social justice", an ever more powerful state?

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Coondog » 2014 Jan 22 17:15

In a country where Ebeneezer scrooge makes 300 times more money than Bob Cratchet, perhaps some "transformation" is in order.

Constant complaining about somebody's efforts to address a ridiculous disparity in income levels serves no purpose.

Recognizing that a $7.50 per hour mail room clerk works harder than a 10 million dollar a year CEO would be a start. Then, stop scouring the internet for examples of some unemployed bum scamming $200 per month from the government and start scouring for the hundreds of millions handed over, without as much as a tut-tut from self professed free market capitalists, to insanely rich corporate entities who don't know, care or appreciate how the mail gets to their penthouse suites.

“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.... Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing.”
― Franklin D. Roosevelt


“Still another danger is represented by those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion.

Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.

They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution.

They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead.”
― Henry A. Wallace


These guys are not talking about Obama.........they seem to be talking about......your people.

Coondog :pompom:

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Where to begin...Dang.

Postby Crux » 2014 Jan 22 18:26

Coondog wrote:Recognizing that a $7.50 per hour mail room clerk works
harder than a 10 million dollar a year CEO would be a start.


Common sense folks know a CEO, any CEO, has a much more demanding set of work related responsibilities than a mail room clerk earning $7.50/hour!

This obvious detail says something about you. Many words come to mind.

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As per FDR, let us just acknowledge that government, and governmental oversight and regulation across the board have increased astronomically.

It's never enough for the so called "liberal" though is it...

crux :sail:

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Dear Visitor!!

Postby Crux » 2014 Mar 28 20:52

WELCOME! Welcome to the Rockbridge Forum. You are probably wondering, after perusing the Threads and Past Posts, why this whiny leftist site is SO QUIET... I like to think I have had something to do with it. I have over time taken on MULTIPLE adversaries. I call them that because of the nasty tag-team adversarial WAY they have dealt with this humble messenger. Fact is, the messenger CRUX is not the problem. It is of course the message. We are years into a very bad news cycle for Democrats and leftists.

This thread is about HYPOCRISY. In the news, over in California, a utopian pipe dream of one party rule, we read about Democrat Senator Yee. http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law ... ion/nfM3F/ I mean sure there's Calderon and Wright but it is YEE that interests ME. He is a BIG ANTI GUN-GUN BANNING hypocrite. SEE, YEE is charged with money laundering and GUN RUNNING. AKs, RPGs. :gun: ALLEGEDLY that is. We shall see...

It would be funny if it weren't so darned sickening.

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BILL MAHER actually comes through here by quoting "Paul Ryan", and it is actually a quote by MICHELE OBAMA!!!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03 ... priceless/
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Here is a wonderful story about a so called LIBERAL teacher who harassed a precious 5 year old
girl in school for praying before her lunch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJiorW8vhTM

It is stories like this that should illuminate those, with the POTENTIAL to actually find BALANCE... :coffee:

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Bigbux Stogeychomper » 2014 Mar 29 10:25

So what's your point?

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Cannoneer » 2014 Mar 30 00:40

Here is a little bit of Liberal Hypocrisy,
Three California State Senators that the Democrat controlled State Senate refuses to expel.
Democrat Roderick Wright.Convicted of eight felony counts of voter fraud and perjury.
Democrat Ronald Calderon. Indicted on federal corruption charges of accepting $100.000.00 in bribes, meals and golf outings, and an $88,000.00 bribe from an undercover FBI agent.
Democrat Leland Yee, arrested in a corruption case.
Charges include, firearms trafficking, money laundering, murder for hire and drug distribution. Talking to undercover FBI agents he wanted to know if they wanted full automatic or semiautomatic weapons.
All three are on paid leave from the State Senate.
If they were not democrats this would be big news nation wide.

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Wise One » 2014 Mar 30 07:24

Cannoneer wrote:If they were not democrats this would be big news nation wide.

More "poor little me, everybody's picking in us" conservative baby whining. Of course, it's complete bullshit, evidence below:
etc., in the hundreds if not thousands.
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Re: YEEE HAAAAAAA (Pun intended)

Postby Kevsky » 2014 Mar 30 09:55

Great. The majority of the news reports you posted are pretty much the same Associated Press story just different publishings.

I do like this one that I found

Leeland Yee - Anti-Gun Democrat

Yee remained committed to getting it enshrined in California law. So intent was Yee that Americans should not have various kinds of lethal weapons that he took it upon himself to hook up with international arms traffickers and an Islamic jihad group, in order to sell them millions of dollars’ worth of automatic weapons and missiles and thereby empty the U.S. of this lethal materiel.
Now that’s the kind of selfless willingness to put the public interest first that is so rare in American politicians today. This anti-gun public servant asked an FBI agent whom he thought was an international arms trafficker to give him a shopping list of weapons he wanted in exchange for $2,000,000 in cash, which was apparently to go to Yee’s campaign for California Secretary of State.

And why not? How urgently California needs Leland Yee! How many other anti-gun officials would be willing to take it upon themselves to rid their state of guns, by facilitating their shipment out of the country altogether?


You gotta love the sarcasm.

What are the chances we will see the mainstream media do a story highlighting the hypocrisy of the anti-gun advocacy in this situation????

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Re: YEEE HAAAAAAA (Pun intended)

Postby Wise One » 2014 Mar 30 13:17

Kevsky wrote:What are the chances we will see the mainstream media do a story highlighting the hypocrisy of the anti-gun advocacy in this situation????
100%. They don't get more mainstream than the ones below:
And yet conservative bullshit and baby whining drone on and on. Always will.
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I just love AO...

Postby Crux » 2014 Mar 30 13:28

Wise One wrote:More "poor little me, everybody's picking in us" conservative baby whining.


Wise One wrote:The conservative bullshit and baby whining drone on and on.
:baby:


He's so stuck! The story of Democrat Yee and his Hypocrisy is so epic AO can only snuffle! AO admit it. Epic Fail.

"Guns are bad and I am an elitist do gooder Democrat gun banner and look at me laundering money and running guns..."

:laughing: It's funny AND disturbing!! No??? :pat:

Like I said BAD news cycle. This place is so funny. :clap:

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Cannoneer » 2014 Mar 30 14:39

Unwiseone
The main problem with the bullshit press coverage you posted is the fact that there is no such thing as supension for California State Senators.
What they are really getting is a paid vacation at tax payers expense. And it isn't big nation wide news. And you are a joke. You ignore the fact that the democrats are hypocrits and make a big deal out of the press coverage. Also you're "Main Streem" reports only deal with Yee.