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Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2011 Mar 05 07:01

In FrontPageMag Marc Levin in 2003 wrote:You know you are a radical liberal when you think President Bush lied to the nation, but his predecessor did not.
-You supported making rhetoric about human rights central to US foreign policy under Jimmy Carter, but opposed actually taking action to make human rights a reality under George W. Bush.
-You believe Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, and Yasser Arafat were fairly and democratically elected, but President Bush was not.
-You believe all conservatives are racist, but do not think minorities can ever succeed without affirmative action.
Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as
"extremists

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 05 08:22

-You blamed Bush for gas prices both going UP or going DOWN, and lamented his "big oil" connections to manipulate these prices BOTH ways for POLITICAL advantage.

-You completely ignore the role LIB Dems play in our screwed up energy policy. Shutting down domestic oil production, NOT building refineries, and electric generation plants, etc etc etc....

-You DRIVE UP costs on energy, which hits THE POOR, hits the ECONOMY, HARD.
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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2011 Mar 05 08:34

There's been too little left wing bashing done here lately and I thought it was about time.
And, yes, there is way too much "liberal" lunacy out there for the modest capacity of this website. I say lunacy, but a certain method to the madness becomes more and more clear. The left wing vision for America is taking on the semblance of absurdity.

I see this as advocacy of yet another failed system by liberals who seem to have an affinity to all things past and passe with no clear vision of the present and no conception of the future.
Just another thought. These liberals do the same thing over and over -- vote for the same people, fall for the same lies, run from the same trumped up bogeymen, and blame everyone else for the results. And that Folks is the definition of insanity..............doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results. How about these are the real members of the real Lunatic Fringe? Think so?
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"liberal"...QUOTES are RIGHT ON RIGHT ON...

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 05 18:29

I love the quotes because what passes for LIBERAL these days are more aptly described as PROGRESSIVE REDISTRIBUTIONISTIC ENABLERS, or simply ONE SIZE FITS ALL TOP DOWN CENTRAL STATE PLANNING STATE-ISTS or NAKED ANTI CAPITALIST ANTI LIBERTY SOCIALISTS...

I AM A CLASSIC LIBERAL. :usa2:

crux...because I care...

By the way on the KOCH BROTHERS (who patronize the arts, are HUGE Philanthropists, favor DRUG legalization, FAVOR gay marriage, and advocate large cuts to defense spending) AND their supposed OWNERSHIP of Governor Walker in Wisconsin. They contributed a little over 40 K out of 9,000,000 $$$. Now follow me here. They gave less than ONE HALF OF ONE PERCENT of Walkers total campaign contributions... More than I can give but by the Left's (or 'corndog's) SPITTLE you'd SWEAR they were EVIL incarnate. :thumbup:
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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2011 Mar 08 12:57

Liberals have no interest in fighting to solve real problems. They are interested only in fighting imaginary problems of their own concoction – it's a helluva lot easier than real work.
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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2011 Mar 08 13:15

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Wise One » 2011 Mar 08 15:21

Sam wrote:Liberals have no interest in fighting to solve real problems. They are interested only in fighting imaginary problems of their own concoction – it's a helluva lot easier than real work.

Sam, if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery then I'm obliged to thank you for your flattery. It makes me warm and tingly all over.

But wait. I listed a number of actual actions and complaints by Republicans that are sound and fury over purely imaginary problems.

I kinda think it's fair to oblige you to make a similar list of problems, imaginary ones not real ones, that "liberals" have lodged actions and complaints over. By this I don't mean proposed liberal solutions you may disagree with, but the problem statement itself.

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Hypocritic Oaths

Postby Coondog » 2011 Mar 08 15:43

When I find I have nothing to say......I seldom post it!

Hopefully the exhileration of mindless ranting at liberals doesn't cause anybody apoplexy!

Here's some information you guys forgot to mention:

Joe the Plumber, AKA Joseph Wurzelbacher, showed up at a rally yesterday for the Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity and told Governor Walker's Tea Party supporters that the Madison protesters were pinkos. "It's a fact, they've got card-carrying socialists, card-carrying communists in Madison, around the state Capitol, with them," he said


http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_7aba1f46-4854-11e0-b468-

It's a must read for worshipers of Joe the Plumber and the Koch Brothers who bused him into Wisconsin. These might be those "outside agitaters" the Gov. was talkin' about. eh?

You guys rant away, now...............................................just keep on #@%king that chicken!

Coondog :laughing:

Rooster games - willing to fight instead of trying to work out a problem

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2011 Mar 08 15:59

Well Folks, I see my message is being missed. Goes right over their heads. Now I understand the mindset of some here.
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Confusability

Postby Coondog » 2011 Mar 08 17:24

What Message?

You started out with some excerpts from and a link to an old, laborious, outdated and humorless list entitled:
"You Might be a Leftist If . ."

Then you play bash the liberal grab a$$ with crux like inebriated frat boys in the shower. I choose to respond in the spirit with which this thread was founded. Emulating the founders, as it were!

If there is a message here.....yep...I guess I missed it! If there was a point......I missed that, too!

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Greed...the party of...

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 08 20:57

...on the Left. All across America, Government Unions on the State level are CLAMORING for TAXES to be RAISED, to support their GENEROUS SALARIES, BENEFITS and PENSIONS, which are not sustainable... The Unions want the MAJORITY of wage earners, who in MOST case do not earn what the MINORITY UNION MEMBERS earn, to pay MORE TAXES...

This is economic insanity. This is GREED. The Democrats are WRONG. The Unions are WRONG.

INFLATION, and the DEVALUATION OF THE DOLLAR, the RISE IN INTEREST RATES, huge DEFICIT spending... This seems to be the plan being perpetuated by the LEFT. This is wrong.

We are increasing spending, we are increasing regulations, we are not developing our own energy sources, we are borrowing money, we are printing money. This is disgusting. We are on the road to economic oblivion. This is serious.

Fiscal Conservatism, Living within our means, Personal and State and National Responsibility are Commodities in short supply.

The Denial by The People and Their Representatives is Great. It is Greater on the part of the party of Government...

This is all really very undeniable.

Everything across the board must be cut.

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Amy Probenski » 2011 Mar 08 23:40

How could I have been so slow? I finally get it.
You are right. Completely right. On every one of your points in every message you have posted.
Everybody else here now also agrees completely with you. Honest.
You win. You don't need to work at persuading us any more.
Now please let the rest of us resume our former communications style, respectfully listening to each other and engaging in a true dialog.

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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 09 07:56

TRUE dialog? What I have seen is several folks on the left, bashing the "other side", and congratulating each other. Take the most recent example of substance on the health care thread. Toothless posted what passes as an except-able article from Slate. I read it and challenged a few of it's most basic assertions, about a study that is reported to be DEFINITIVE. There are some obvious issues and flaws, not only with the reporting, but within the study. Some obvious bias exists too, but when is there not? I can deal with that...

Again and again it is not enough, to just bash, and not back it up. Assert, and not take up the challenge...

...ru...
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Grow Up!

Postby Coondog » 2011 Mar 09 15:12

INFLATION, and the DEVALUATION OF THE DOLLAR, the RISE IN INTEREST RATES, huge DEFICIT spending... This seems to be the plan being perpetuated by the LEFT. This is wrong.

Yessssssss....that IS wrong. It is a truly ignorant statement! If you really believe there is some left wing cabal out there intent upon harming the country, then you have no business calling someone else a fool!

Coondog :pat:

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Re: Grow Up!

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 09 16:00

Thanks... I more appropriately used the four letter word PATH above instead of plan.
Gosh did you just RIP me or what? :hello2:
HEY!, did you catch the RECORD figure today for the amount of deficit spending just this last month!

223 BILLION... :thumbup: OUCH!

How about a joke? "Quantitative Easing!!!" :grin: ...funny... Here's another one, "Economic Stimulus Bill!!!" :lol: OK, OK...
ONE more... "Offshore Drilling Ban!!!" :laughing:

...x
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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2011 Mar 09 16:36

Crux when are going to get it my friend there is a double standard here.
But we won't let that get in the way
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Here's another joke...but the joke's on...

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 09 17:34

NPR.

...oh this is FUNNY! Remember Juan Williams? The criticisms of his biases, etc? His firing?

DEFUND IT NOW!! Heck, even NPR agrees!
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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 09 18:39

Wise One wrote: I listed a number of actual actions and complaints by Republicans that are sound and fury over purely imaginary problems.

I kinda think it's fair to oblige you to make a similar list of problems, imaginary ones not real ones, that "liberals" have lodged actions and complaints over. By this I don't mean proposed liberal solutions you may disagree with, but the problem statement itself.

-that PP needs or deserves Federal Funding
-that NPR needs or deserves Federal Funding
-hate crimes legislation
-cell phones for the poor at taxpayer expense
-cars for the poor at taxpayer expense
-internet for the poor at taxpayer expense
-bans on circumcision
-reparations
-hate speech laws
-banning plastic grocery bags
-banning incandescent light bulbs
-net neutrality
-high speed rail
-that lead bullets be banned
-500% ammunition taxes
-single payer health care

Now I am just playing around and do not have the time to fully reply...
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Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Wise One » 2011 Mar 09 19:59

You don't get it. Yours is not a list of problems. It is a list of actions you disapprove of.
Just about every action, whether you approve of it or not, relates to problem which really exists, never mind if or how one should address it.

Clarifying examples:
  • Proposed domestic legislation barring governments from adopting Sharia Law is a solution looking for a problem. No domestic government, federal, state, or local, has taken the tiniest step toward replacing US law with Sharia Law. No problem exists and yet Republicans insist on acting with the force of law against an imaginary threat.
  • Hatred does exist. Crimes motivated by hatred exist. One can debate whether a "hate crime" ought to given the legal status of an additional punishable offense but the laws adopted are connected to a real phenomenon. (BTW, I personally oppose hate crime laws for reasons I'll omit from this posting, but I would never hold that the problem does not exist.)
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I like my list.

Postby Crux » 2011 Mar 09 21:02

Word games are fun. However, perspective is everything... "Sound and Fury" aplenty on the list I provided...Your list included flag burning laws, anti sharia statutes, etc.... Some on the Right disagreed with you that there WAS a real issue and problem. Simple really. My list is similar. Some on the Left feels there is a real NEED or PROBLEM which needs to be addressed... Perspective and Opinion is what we have on all these. Bans on Circumcision, Federal Funding for NPR? Silly. Cars, AAA and Free Car Maintenance for the Poor? Reparations? The list of problems real and perceived is really a list of problems more or less. We just disagree...

One might think a statute to ban Sharia is as silly as a statute to ban Circumcision.

Whatever.

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