Planned Parenthood or the A word...

[Crux]

First Fangz equates ovaries with a limp penis, and abortion generally with the use of Viagra, NOW she seems to be equating the expulsion of sperm through masturbation with the abortion of a third trimester baby under apparently any and all desires on the part of the mother, a baby mature enough to live outside the womb.

So let's see. Sperm ejaculated during masturbation at an adult bookstore if we are to take her cartoon to heart, is DEATH and TAKING of LIFE that is the moral, and ethical EQUAL to the killing of a baby in the womb at say 24 weeks by the means of the insertion of poison through a needle directly into the heart, or the snipping or the spinal column of the baby with scissors...

Just WOW. It is that kind of day and Fangz really is just that kind of woman.



I think Fangz and I speak well for ourselves. I mean the cartoon made my wife laugh, and she is a pro life kind of chick!
"Life begins at erection!!" was OUR reality, and deep blessing. I understand the points but has Fangz lost her center?

[Wise One]

An incapacity to recognize and appreciate satire, for example always interpreting cartoons literally, may suggest that one is missing a great deal in life.

[fangz1956]

[Crux]

Carlin AGAIN? Seen it... I don't need to watch Kinnison or Murphy from the 80s bash GAYS either.
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Fangz, how about a little CHOICE before CONCEPTION??? Can we champion THAT??
Can we as well foster a little additional personal responsibility once that baby hits, what, 20?, maybe 24 weeks???
Dang.
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AO, I just knew you would ride in on your white mule and come to the little lady's rescue...
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Fangz, is terminating a pregnancy in the third trimester, for the sake of choice and convenience alone acceptable?
Maybe you think it's small potatoes, I think they're small human beings who are being killed with poison and scissors.

Seriously, it might be a better world if you could rally for those unborn, just a bit. It is in your heart isn't it???

cruxnotyourenemy

[fangz1956]

Crux......I see you are still your usual myopic self.

[fangz1956]

[Crux]

[Coondog]

It would be refreshing if some scientific retrospective concerning fetal development were interjected into this discussion.

Unfortunately, medical concerns are secondary to religious concerns. Hence we have nationwide conservative efforts which collectively seek to close clinics, mandate unnecessary proceedures, co-opt decisions of both doctors and women, mandate dissimination of false information and basically show the proponents of anti-abortion legislation to be the uneducated fools that they clearly are.

24 weeks may be an arbitrary time frame. Maybe it's too much.....maybe too little, under average circumstances. But, what abortion decision is average? Everyone and everyone's circumstances are different.

But, if we're going to delve into hypotheticals, at 30 weeks, must a malformed fetus with a life expectancy of a few months, never leaving the hospital and dependent upon millions of dollars in medical proceedures to insure those few months of agonized life experience.....must the law mandate that this pregnancy be carried to term?

If not, and all of the clinics are closed.......what options are there? Who makes that decision? Rick Perry?

Thanks to Fangz (and George Carlin) the reality is laid out quite accurately. People who really want to reduce abortions would logically embrace contraceptive methods as a means toward that end. The fact that they do not makes one wonder what, if anything outside of science fiction motivates them.

Coondog

Plan B works retroactively

Abstinance does not.

[Crux]

[fangz1956]

[fangz1956]

How do you like having the tables turned, crux???????

[Coondog]

[Crux]

So what we see here is both corndog and Fangz avoiding the issue, and answering the question.
We by now have concluded class, that they are not brave enough to speak to the truth...



The truth is that a 24 week old baby in the womb is quite capable of living outside the womb.

The truth is that a 24 week old baby, when aborted is killed with a chemical poison delivered to the heart by a long needle.

The truth is that baby is aborted is by a D&E, or "partial birth abortion". The baby, it's head out beyond the dilated cervix,
the body still inside, has the spinal cord severed with a snip of some (sterile) scissors. So clean and efficient.

Fangz, to answer you, there are men and women of conscience who find late term abortions to be just plain wrong...

Sickening even. Erections? Ejaculations? These things are not analogous with late term abortion.

[fangz1956]

Disagree Coondog. Sometimes, it takes a hairbrained idea to get the attention of the hairbrained.

[fangz1956]

Crux......You may think you own a conscience but you do not. You have ZERO right to govern a woman's right to choose what to do with her own body and ZERO right to be pressing your nose into those very personal decisions.

Sorry......but erections and ejaculations are analogous here. Without them, we wouldn't be having this conversation because preganancy would not exist.

Start thinkin' with your big head...that is what it is for. Now stop your hysterical ranting and raving about something with which you have ZERO personal experience. You are of the breed that wishes to keep women barefoot, pregnant, in the kitchen, subserviant to men....because you also wish to stop the availability of contraception for ALL women, ban sex education outside of abstinence and stop any kind of support to low income women who would need help raising a child. In case you haven't noticed, this is the 21st century...........not 1890.

Your stand on this makes no rational sense of any kind.......NONE. It makes about as much sense as perfume on a hog!!!

[Crux]

[Wise One]

[Coondog]

[Crux]

[fangz1956]

Read it and weep, gentlemen. Are any of you parents? I am guessing maybe not since you don't seem to stop and consider all of the details and timelines involved in pregnancy. Another good reason why this is a very personal and private decision and should not be legislated or debated by hysterical old men and Republican women.