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Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Coondog » 2010 Jul 12 16:33

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Washington (CNN) - Play golf or save the gulf?

That's the question asked on a new website launched Monday by the Republican National Committee. It lists 13 "leisure activities or missteps" made by President Obama since the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded on April 20, and visitors can list their top five and share them on Twitter and Facebook.

"President Obama's frustrating tendency to hit the links rather than devote his undivided attention to providing a solution to the worst ecological disaster in American history represents an unacceptable lack of seriousness and focus," RNC Chairman Michael Steele said in a statement provided to CNN. "While communities along the Gulf Coast are reeling from the devastating economic and environmental impact of the ongoing spill, it is beyond offensive that this president would even think of scheduling a tee time."

Someone should point out to the RNC that a round of golf is just the sort of tension relief that prevents people from taking a butcher knife to those who desperately deserve it........like them!

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2010 Jul 13 10:09

Thanks, puppy, for stirring the pot. Of course you're right, but damn, starting this topic might cause Stonewall a world of hurt. Republican hypocrisy has so many examples, you'll blow his storage and bandwidth sky high, maybe even shut down the whole dang internet!!

Here's another one. As usual, Republicans chant the mantra of government tax cuts and other government largesse but only for for the rich and powerful, never for the poor and powerless. The cost of government and public services must, in their minds, be paid for by poor people, never by rich people.

Make a $5 billion bucks? Republicans would not tax it, inventing loopholes and preferences and credits to allow escape. If your hedge fund gets in trouble, Republicans will vote to bail you out.
Make $15 thousand bucks? Republicans would tax it to the hilt. If you become unemployed, Republicans will vote to terminate your unemployment compensation.

George W. Bush was the all time presidential champion at taking vacation time for golf, biking, chopping wood and who knows what all, maybe tossing cow turds around his ranch. Not a peep from Republicans. But if the O man plays a round of golf, they cry bloody murder!

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PS. They think they are so damn cute, deliberately and always mispronouncing the name of the Democratic Party. How childish!

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Coondog » 2010 Jul 13 13:45

That's true, Neck!

But there's been too little right wing bashing done here lately and I thought it was about time.

And, yes, there is way too much "conservative" lunacy out there for the modest capacity of this website. I say lunacy, but a certain method to the madness becomes more and more clear. The right wing vision for America is taking on the semblence of Feudalism.........rich corporate warlords and their oppulant lifestyles supported by the equivalent of serfs.

I see this as advocacy of yet another failed system by conservatives who seem to have an affinity to all things past and passe with no clear vision of the present and no conception of the future.

This is in opposition to their supposition that it is them who supports us (putting myself in the 'serfdom' category), but if that's the case, they're doing a lousy job, having forgotten that even under a feudal system, some measure of protection and sustinance must be afforded the serfs by thier lords and vassels. Otherwise, the bottom falls out and the system is no longer sustainable.

Much like the redistribution of wealth over the past decade to the upper levels of society while the lower levels disintigrate. They feel no obligation to those segments from which their wealth derived and little concern for the socio-economic foundation which is crumbling beneath them.

They worship at the feet of capitalism, a false god they have stripped to the marrow like the vultures they are, viewing any and all attempts to salvage the economy they ruined as socialism.

Socialism? More like humanitarianism....another concept totally lost on the egocentric, corporate gouls and their paid lackeys who, having abused power so mercilessly that it had to be taken away from them, are now desperate to get it back and are willing to do anything, say anything, no matter how absurd, to make us believe they deserve it.

The irony of the situation: In a position of power, people like Boener, Bachman, Palin and the rest of their ilk would never tolerate the seditious, traitorous rhetoric they themselves spout on a daily basis.

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Juggler » 2010 Oct 14 22:42

How Fox-TV anchors are born and bred:

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby ParkerLongbaugh » 2010 Oct 15 10:45

Cute cartoon, but it's awfully hard to logically tie the federal deficit to the tax cuts of 2003.

In 2003, the year they were approved by Congress, the federal government's spending exceeded the federal government's revenues by 12.9%. In 2004 through 2006, that shortfall shrank to 11.3% then 7.2% then 3.9%.

In 2007, that trend reversed and the shortfall started growing again- to 5.2% and then 16.8% in 2008.

Do folks really believe the tax cuts reversed a deficit trend the year they took effect, and then reversed it again 4 years later?

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Wise One » 2010 Oct 16 17:34

The cartoon, even your quick analysis, are oversimplifications of many complicated factors. Although unreferenced, I assume that your figures come from data that underlie this kind of chart:
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The shortfall is the difference between revenues and expenditures, a gap with no single cause. Yes, tax cuts for the rich are a cause of revenue decline. Yes, initiating Afghanistan and Iraq wars and entitlement spending tied to an aging population caused expenditures to grow. Yes, the bursting economic bubble tied to irresponsible dismantlement of financial regulation caused revenues to decline and bailout/stimulus expenditures to grow.

You've zeroed in on tax cuts, asking a nonsensical question about how they could possibly be responsible for both growth and shrinkage of the deficit.

Of course they cannot, all by themselves.

But it is absolutely true that they are a powerful contributor to that deficit, one actor in the play featuring all the other factors cited above.

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby ParkerLongbaugh » 2010 Oct 17 08:42

Although unreferenced, I assume that your figures come from data that underlie this kind of chart:
Yep, those raw numbers are easily found through the CBO, OMB and other reporting agencies, as well as with analysis from groups on both sides of the aisle.
You've zeroed in on tax cuts, asking a nonsensical question about how they could possibly be responsible for both growth and shrinkage of the deficit. Of course they cannot, all by themselves.
The zeroing in was way before my posting- I simply sought to refute that original oversimplification.
The shortfall is the difference between revenues and expenditures, a gap with no single cause. Yes, tax cuts for the rich are a cause of revenue decline. Yes, initiating Afghanistan and Iraq wars and entitlement spending tied to an aging population caused expenditures to grow. Yes, the bursting economic bubble tied to irresponsible dismantlement of financial regulation caused revenues to decline and bailout/stimulus expenditures to grow.
I think we'll just agree to disagree on the list of causes- I suspect our personal experiences and observations and thus subsequent analysis would have little in common...

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Liars' Club

Postby Amy Probenski » 2010 Nov 11 09:55

Michelle Bachman is a disgrace to my sex. There is a faint glimmering, very faint, that she is too much even for her fellow Republicans to stomach.

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Wise One » 2010 Dec 03 10:27

Although Republicans are supremely competent practitioners of hypocrisy, they have no monopoly.
Sometimes even liberals and Democrats deserve a good skewering.


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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Amy Probenski » 2011 Jan 17 12:41

Ha! That is hilarious! Yes, we should shoot arrows at all deserving targets, Dem or Rep.

Here is today's outrageous example of Republican hypocrisy.

Looking around this Forum I see way too many examples of a Republican "war on logic" or a "war on arithmetic" that Paul Krugman seems also to have noticed.

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Krugman's faulty logic rebutted today...ATTN.AMY

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 17 22:47

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/25 ... uval-levin

Amy just loved to put Paul up as EVIDENCE of Republican hypocrisy, and "War on Logic". I know some here think P.K. is just an AMAZING intellect. Dig into his article... I ask you if you think he is all that, check this out to get BALANCED. It is a short analysis, one which Paul never attempted...

Every Krugman article has at least one of those wild inferences about Right. I look for them like gems in the grass.

Here is one from your article Amy: "They’re against reform because it would cover the uninsured — and that’s something they just don’t want to do".

http://www.heritage.org/research/projec ... n-pictures ...speaking of the uninsured and cost.
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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby historyforall » 2011 Jan 18 11:47

There are way too many articles based on opinion, and these opinions use whatever facts to make sure that what ever they want to say is expressed. Most of the resources uses are groups that make sure an opinion is expressed in the outcome that they want. It is like the coffee is bad/good for you research. Beware of any groups that are part of "Think-tanks". Using these groups as a resource is no different than writting a text book based on website research.
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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Wise One » 2011 Jan 18 15:03

Your warning is accurate. (I'd say you hit the bulls-eye, but firearms metaphors are on vacation.)

Some "think-tanks" and "associations" are consistently narrow, those who toil within their walls merely cherry-picking any fact, idea, or statement to support preconceptions that align with ideology. Any fact not supporting, or refuting, that ideology is simply ignored.

Examples vary in their degree of egregiousness: Heritage Foundation, George Mason University's Mercator Center, Heartland Institute, Manhattan Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Hoover Institution, US Chamber of Commerce.

It's not that all are always wrong ... I've seen good stuff from some of them, rare gems buried in an avalanche of propaganda.

Some of their stuff contains actual verifiable facts, almost by accident. When I find solid content instead of mere soapbox belief, I get immense pleasure in using their own facts to skewer them – hoist 'em upon their own petard!
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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 18 21:13

historyforall wrote:There are way too many articles based on opinion, and these opinions use whatever facts to make sure that what ever they want to say is expressed.

Might you comment on this H4A or WO from the rebuttal article which was NOT generated by a "think tank"...

"Let’s get clear on the basics. Everyone agrees that Obamacare involves a massive increase in spending and a massive increase in taxes. Defenders of the law, including Krugman, want to suggest that the massive tax increases are larger than the massive spending increases, so the bill would reduce the deficit overall. Immense tax and spending increases certainly make for an odd path to deficit reduction, but this is their argument in defense of the law’s fiscal merits. To allow for that case, the law was designed to game the CBO scoring system, and to impose some very implausible assumptions of massive entitlement spending cuts by future congresses. Even with these assumptions, neither the CBO nor the Obama administration’s own CMS actuary argues that the law will actually reduce health-care spending or the rise of health-care costs—which are the actual problems at the core of our health-care dilemma and the reason why insurance has moved out of the reach of a growing number of American families'.

...as I am interested in your point of view.

The underlined refers to at least 2 points:
1. The bill over the first 10 years calls for 10 years of taxes and fees paid into the Government Program YET ONLY 6 years of BENEFITS provided...
2. The bill calls for 500 BILLION to be taken OUT OF Medicare (a 10% cut at the very time the Baby Boomer Impact will begin creating a 30% increase in NEED for that Medicare money) and shifts it to MEDICAID.

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Obama Pledges...

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 26 22:38

...to veto any bills that have Earmarks inside...news flash...
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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Juggler » 2011 Jan 30 01:06

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The Giggler (thinks he) strikes again....

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 30 09:19

Hypocrisy?
...you are limited...
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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2011 Feb 04 18:46

This guy takes the cake.

(Nino and Dick are hunting buddies, but of course Hatch offered not a peep of objection to Scalia's hearing the Cheney energy case or the gun case.)

:rant: