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Crux
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Too FUNNY

Postby Crux » 2014 Mar 30 13:34

nudgewink wrote:Join millions of people across the world -switch lights off for an hour...to raise awareness for the planet.


Let's have a DRUM CIRCLE TOO!! Can we hold hands and sing CIRCLE SONGS?? Let's have a PRIUS CONVOY!!


"Let's join MILLIONS of people across the WORLD and SWITCH LIGHTS OFF FOR AN HOUR!!" :laughing:
You have lost it COMPLETELY Auntie Nudge... This hour will sooth the soul this much???

I must be a barbarian to you Auntie. My green cred is way up there I assure you but THIS... :dontknow:

I have a better idea. Let's all make clothes out of woven dog hair swept up from the floors of
our local animal shelter! Heck, maybe we power our Hospitals by BURNING ABORTED FETUSES!!!


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/britains-nh ... port-says/

BE the change you wish to see in the world Auntie and GO in peace... :wink:

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Mark this down and file it in your brain!

Postby Crux » 2014 Mar 31 13:25

Re: Climate Change

NIPCC Conclusions in Brief

Backed by thousands of peer-reviewed studies, are in striking contrast to the IPCC’s alarmist predictions:

**Climate data tell us that the human impact on Earth’s climate is very small and that any warming due to GH gases will be so small as to be indiscernible from natural variability.
**The net impacts of modestly rising temperatures and higher carbon-dioxide levels on plants, animals, wildlife, and human welfare have been positive so far and are likely to continue to be positive.
**The costs of trying to mitigate climate change by reducing emissions vastly exceed the benefits. Annual cost per US household would run to some $3,900; would destroy millions of jobs.
**In light of the new science and economics of climate change, thousands of laws passed at the height of the global warming scare need to be re-evaluated, modified, or repealed.

S. Fred Singer is professor emeritus at the University of Virginia and director of the Science & Environmental Policy Project. His specialty is atmospheric and space physics. An expert in remote sensing and satellites, he served as the founding director of the US Weather Satellite Service and, more recently, as vice chair of the US National Advisory Committee on Oceans & Atmosphere.
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From a good article in the American Thinker http://americanthinker.com/2014/03/the_ ... mate_.html

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby Wise One » 2014 Mar 31 14:47

Priceless. Crux finds yet another crazy horse to ride.

I have known Fred Singer personally for decades, meeting him first at the University of Maryland, and interacting with him when he was at UVa, and then in the federal Department of Transportation in Washington. In retirement he set up a little two person think tank with his wife, who divorced him shortly thereafter. They catered exclusively to clients who would pay very well for contrarian "science" that would reinforce their science-denying self-serving interests. Clients who will pay for this shit seem to be amazingly abundant.

I'm actually surprised to see this latest piece by him, because when his old clients started seeing the light they tapered off on their purchases of bogus "research", I actually heard him stand up in a large auditorium and recant some of this prior views regarding global climate change. Maybe he's found a new sugar daddy and is again revising his views to support his new paying client? Is it a 4-letter name beginning with "K"?

For the 900th time, temperature itself is a poor proxy for global climate change. Think of a glass of water half filled with ice, sitting in the hot July sun. The temperature of the water will remain a rock-solid 32F and science deniers would say, "See, no problem, the temperature's not changing and it will always be this way." Only when the last ice melts (think polar caps and glaciers) does the water temperature (think ocean and atmosphere) begin then to explode.

Polar caps are melting. Glaciers are melting. Global climate is changing. Big time.

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I am PRO global warming! It's COLD out there!

Postby Crux » 2014 Mar 31 16:27

(somewhere...let's MOVE the bread basket north a little)
Wise One wrote:Polar caps are melting. Glaciers are melting. Global climate is changing. Big time.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/16/globa ... 0-percent/
First THAT^^^. Are you talking Arctic or Antarctic? On the second, NO SHIT SHERLOCK Global Climate changes!!


For too long I have been watching this to have ANY confidence that, on the one hand HUMANS are affecting global climate change, or that global climate change is ABLE to be affected by humans or that global climate change will be a NEGATIVE.

The fact that this is a political issue for redistributionist anti-capitalist state-ists IS clear to me...

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby nudgewink » 2014 Apr 14 09:37

Yeah.
And gravity is also "a political issue for redistributionist anti-capitalist state-ists" just to repress and tether patriotic conservatives from soaring free.

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Re: I am PRO global warming! It's COLD out there!

Postby Wise One » 2014 Apr 14 11:06

Crux wrote: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/16/globa ... 0-percent/
First THAT^^^. Are you talking Arctic or Antarctic? On the second, NO SHIT SHERLOCK Global Climate changes!!

You are insufferable. This is just more cherry-picking of a statistical anomaly from among a torrent of facts.

Following the trail in your own reference leads to the image below (click it to display full image), containing the ice coverage record. As always, there are annual deviations up and down with a blatantly clear secular trend of ice loss. Only the warped mind of crux would conclude that one year's fluctuation means the entire record is wrong.
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Crux will always take the contrary view, however insane it is. Hmmm. Pretty much the definition of "troll," eh?

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Oh my.

Postby Crux » 2014 Apr 14 16:28

Wise One wrote:Crux will always take the contrary view, however insane it is. Hmmm. Pretty much the definition of "troll," eh?

It's like Junior High and I just am not part of the "popular crowd". Lame AO, just lame...

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Buy crux a TV

Postby Coondog » 2014 Apr 14 17:02

Documentary on HBO last night called "Years of Living Dangerously".

Harrison Ford exploring deforestation of rain forests. Scientists explaining effects of CO2 release on atmospheric conditions. Sociological effects of climate change induced drought.

You can argue against the reliability of scientific study.......but you best not take issue with Harrison Ford!

Global climate changes do happen. They are seldom beneficial to air breathing organisms. Ask the dinosaurs. Slash and Burn techniques to rid the earth of pesky rain forests produces soot in the atmosphere which settles on glaciers and ice caps, causing them to absorb rather than reflect sunlight which causes them to melt which affects ocean temperatures which will eventually alter currents which will eventually kill off a huge percentage if not all of air breathing organisms.

Helping climate change along in any way, no matter how small, seems like a bad idea.

Coondog

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby Juggler » 2014 May 08 22:48

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note:

Postby Crux » 2014 May 11 19:25

clown has brought sex and vaginas into the conversation, and benghazi, the IRS, fast and furious, etc.

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:18

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:19

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:20

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:21

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:21

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:22

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:23

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby fangz1956 » 2014 May 11 22:24

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Re: Mother Nature ONLY

Postby Coondog » 2014 May 12 10:01

Lovely flowers, fangzie!

It is heartening that we can still photograph them in all their pristine beauty rather than covered in a layer of soot. Coondog is aware of how much you dislike the interjection of divisive rhetoric under this heading. That is agreed. It's not like there are not other places one might haggle over whether or not flowers are more important than shale oil......but, how we coexist with Mother Nature appears to be, miraculously, a contentious issue.

We have the capacity to eradicate ourselves, but nature has that same capacity in reserve. The dinosaurs were not as destructive as we are, but they became extinct real quick. Otherwise, we all might have scales. So....we should leave a time capsule for the benefit of whatever life form evolves after we are gone (probably cockroaches) warning them to leave the oil (us) in the ground and to never, ever, invent the internet.

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This is the kind of information you might consider.

Postby Crux » 2014 May 19 22:53

This is PERSPECTIVE. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... canard.php

Funny how the notion of consensus gets established...