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Governor McDumbell

Postby fangz1956 » 2010 Feb 20 08:41

I understand that times are hard, the economy is in the dumper, and everybody is stretched pretty damn thin these days. However, the new budget proposals by Governor McDumbell take the cake. The picture that accompanied the article in the Roanoke Times this week made me want to vomit. What a faux look of concern for the poorest among us who are going to be hit the hardest.

By all means, let's fire teachers, cut out the school breakfast program for the poor kids, close the department of health dental clinics that serve the poor and uninsured, cut funding to the Free clinics that serve the working poor. This is one of the most brainless moves I've seen come out of Richmond since Gilmore cut the car tax and began the strangulation of local governments.

is it too early to impeach this SOB????? If it is, can we at least tar and feather the McDumbell??????


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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby historyforall » 2010 Feb 22 10:10

Isn't it interesting that almost every politician runs on some sort of education platform. They are going to make education better and invest in our future, blah blah. Than the first thing they all do is cut education and make it harder for schools and teachers. This happens all over the country. Education reform is so simple but unions and corruption keep it from being done.

Ever wonder where all that Lotto money goes. If we just used the lotto money for schools and teachers and nothing else we would probably have the best schools in the world. But that money tends to never make it to the schools. It gets dipped into by corrupt people and paid to administrators before it ever makes it to those it was intended for. Do they ever talk about cutting principals salaries and those above them? There was an administrator assistant job in Charlottesville School system a few years ago that started at $80,000. That’s as least 2 new teacher's salary.

I say cut middle management get rid of bad teachers and get smart about how a school is run. High School is full of students trying to learn business management. How about give them the chance to run the school. Let them answer phones, check people in and do the tasks that school offices do. Open it up to juniors and seniors who would spend a class period doing the job that had to be done. Also get rid of janitors, make those in detention start cleaning it would be a good way to teach them that if they don’t get smart cleaning toilets is all they will do.
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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Coondog » 2010 Feb 22 12:02

:laughing: Cough! Choke! Sputter!

Sorry! I've been laughing for days, but I think I've calmed down enough to respond by saying to all my fine conservative friends, neighbors and teapartyists who voted for this guy ...........

Welcome to Reality! :grin:

The next time someone says that you're going to be much better off if we cut government spending, you'll be aware (maybe) of exactly what it's going to mean for YOU! :lol:

Pardon my amusemnt, but the "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" philosophy of government you supported so avidly doesn't feel so good when you find out where the new governor has put HIS boot. :laughing:

The net effect of the conservative agenda is to shift the tax burdon of paying for the stuff you've learned to take for granted from mulit-billion dollar corporations and the filthy rich onto yourselves.

Teachers? What do we need them for? Kids can be home-schooled....so they can grow up to be dumb enough (like their parents) to vote against their own best interests. :hum:

So, do continue to celebrate the victory and, by all means, elect some more like McDonald in November. Then go protest over a lack of educational opportunity, potholes and local property taxes.

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Wise One » 2010 Feb 24 12:48

Yes, your points are on target.

The Virginia electorate appears to suffer from a widespread deficiency ... believing and voting trite slogans and prejudices with no thought as to their consequences.

One can pursue know-nothing stridencies, but there are consequences ― slash and burn in Richmond means Rockbridge gets hit, much to their surprise. All those functions the know-nothings assumed are purely local turn out to be anything but.

I must believe that simple ignorance is a big part of the conservative mania that has deflected America from its core values. How can we get people to turn off their damn Fox TV propaganda and sloganeering ― and start learning about the the richness of their own country, and traveling the larger world?

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Coondog » 2010 Feb 24 14:43

How can we get people to turn off their damn Fox TV propaganda and sloganeering ........

Likely not! Fox has a very large ratings share compared with the other "news" outlets. More viewers than can be rationally believed. Admittedly, I'm one of them! Sometimes!

Bill O'Reilly fends off criticism of Fox by asserting that portions of their broadcasts are hard news and others are opinion. Two problems with that are, they don't make a point of differentiating to their viewers which is supposedly which, and their opinions are, as I have often said, predicated upon "facts" which are patently false.

MSNBC is often characterized as a liberal version of Fox....which it sometimes is, but much of their 'opinion' portions revolve around debunking outrageous distortions and falsehoods aired on Fox. The subtle difference is that MSNBC picks apart Fox by citing facts (real ones) and sources while Fox tends to generalize critizism of what they call a liberal socialistic agenda without specifics or regard to the true nature of things.

Unfortunately, most Fox viewers are happy with what they are hearing and not particularly interested in opposing facts or commentary. I can only presume that most liberals are similarly inclined. I must admit that I often find Fox nauseating to the point of regurgitation. One can only hear so many times about how Obama has taken over the auto Industry and the banks; has taken away out freedom and destroyed America.

The healthcare issue highlights the type of "propaganda and sloganeering" that persists and does disservice to those whose vision is dominated and distorted by the likes of Fox. If you only have one source of information, you will likely believe the repetitive false assertions from non-objective talking heads. Presumably such distortions are propagated from the "left" as well, butexamples of specific instances seem to be of short supply. Innuendo, however, abounds!

Just yesterday, in an MSNBC interview, George Petaki described healthcare reform as "a government takeover" which would "pull the plug" on the elderly. These blatently false catch phrases are so ingrained into the alleged debate, that it wasn't even challenged by the "Liberal Media". Just once, I'd like someone to ask them to point out exactly where that is found in the bill.

Now, anyone who needs health insurance, and is not a major stockholder in Well Point, might actually prefer a government takeover of healthcare.....given a set of actual facts to work with. After all, we may no longer have much influence, but we do still have a vote. In that regard, we still have more control over the government than we do Well Point.

But, thats not going to happen!

A tea party sign read, "Where is my lobbyist?" The answer is, "In the government." Elected officials are our lobbyists. They are there to shepherd our best interests. But, they won't do that if we continually tell them to subjugate those interests in favor of corporate entities who only want to suck us dry.....and use the money to bribe our "lobbyists".

But, I digress! This thread is about our new Governor.........who is touted on Fox as an example of the re-emergence of conservatism, re-establishment of the Bush economic plan and the emminent resurrection of Ronald Reagan.....

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby fangz1956 » 2010 Mar 01 20:32

Public schools were in existence way before I ever began attending school. Things have changed a lot since those days and a lot of it, not for the better. There was a time that the only things my parents had to purchase at the beginning of each school year were new clothes and shoes. My brother and I always received the grand treat of a new lunchbox, too................a big deal for little tykes. The schools supplied everything from books to paper and pencils and crayons. Now, each parent must shop to a specific list provided by each school.......and it's not a cheap list. Added to the list of "school supplies" are items such as Kleenex and liquid hand soap. This is before we get to the plethora of fundraisers for the PTA and every club, class, and organization within the particular school. Families living at or below the poverty line cannot afford this laundry list of supplies............therefore, the big boxes are set up each year at the major stores soliciting supplies for the underprivileged. Hmmmmmm..................since when did education become a "privilege"? There are laws on the books regarding truancy. Tax dollars build schools, pay teachers, and supposedly provide the necessities for the classroom.

The thing that irks me the most about politicians is the fact that when budget cuts come, schools take the first, and generally the hardest, hits. Somehow, this just isn't fair and it isn't right. The Commonwealth "expects" the children to be in attendance......fully supplied. The Commonwealth "expects" parents to pay an ever increasing share of the expense. And, then the Commonwealth cuts school budgets resulting in the dismissal of teachers, increasing class size, and reducing the positive effect of the learning experience. And then the Commonwealth has the unmitigated gall to wonder why SOL scores are dismal, the drop-out rate continues to increase, and we are graduating kids who can barely read!

Did our esteemed Governor cut his own salary? Did any member of the House in Richmond cut their own salary? Seems to me that when one trims a cut of meat, you trim the FAT first. Everybody knows you can't trim a bone.

But then again, common sense is dead.............at least in Richmond.


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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Wise One » 2010 Mar 01 21:59

Amen, sister. You have an acid point of view which accurately describes reality.
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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Coondog » 2010 Mar 02 13:34

Bah! You guys don't watch enough Fox News! Bill O'rielly was educated in a classroom of 60 kids by one nun with a yard stick - and look how HE turned out!

Look! All we need do is raise the state sales tax by 2 cents. It won't cost me much since I got off those Milk Bones ..... and it'll only increase Sam's bill at the ABC store about a quarter on a bottle of Jack. Small price to pay to fund an art teacher or two!

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Now...if we could just get "Sweetness" to recycle those bottles...............?

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby purplepixiedust » 2010 Mar 04 07:05

coondog wrote:Bah! You guys don't watch enough Fox News! Bill O'rielly was educated in a classroom of 60 kids by one nun with a yard stick - and look how HE turned out!
Yeah, he's a regular bold, fresh piece of humanity!

Some of you may not know this about our new Gov.:


McDonnell’s team doubled savings goal during transition
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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Coondog » 2010 Mar 04 11:43

Del. M. Kirkland Cox, R-Colonial Heights

Though the $80,000 is a drop in the bucket in the face of steep cuts to K-12 education and the health safety net, Cox said the budgeters will patch it "with any other savings we can get."

"I think the symbolism is very important in tough times."


One (rich) man's symbolism is another (not so rich) man's substance.

Few in Richmond or Northern VA or the Tidewater give much thought to Gov. Spottswood and even less to anything he saw when he reached the summit of the Blue Ridge mountains and cast his gaze westward.

I predict that when the local re-assessments are done and a new tax rate established, symbolism will mean very little on the local level. At last, the symbolic sacrifices we have allegedly not previously made in deference to two unpaid for wars and two unpaid for tax cuts for the rich will become substantial with an exclamation point.

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Amy Probenski » 2010 Mar 06 11:53

This is the activist bigotry we get when we vote right wing Republicans into office.

Not content with freedom of action among colleges and universities, this jerk is going after them with vengeance ― lest they show compassion for people he hates.

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Wise One » 2010 Mar 22 23:03

Virginia is doing it ― yet again!

Virginia is a pathetic, super-deranged Don Quixote character that just cannot keep from tilting at lost causes. But unlike Don Quixote, Virginia never champions just causes. It will fight only stupid and bound-to-lose battles for evil and hurtful purpose.

It pursued the deeply evil Massive Resistance campaign against school desegregation in the 1950's, wasting the taxpayers' money and going down in ignominious defeat.

Now it has just embarked on a massive series of court battles to undo health care insurance reform just passed. I'd say it has zero chance of success, except for the fact that Bush packed the Roberts court with ultraconservative activist judges. That cockamamie crowd could go nuts on this issue, as it did on Bush v Gore, gun laws, and campaign finance regulation.
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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Uji » 2010 Mar 22 23:41

You gotta admit, though, guy's got his priorities straight. First, make it legal to carry concealed hand-guns in restaurants; then, second, do what you can to destroy the little that remains of public education; then, use the money you save in two to sue the Federal Government in order to keep them from giving our health-care system any help.

Remind me again, why did anyone vote for this Cretin? He doesn't have a speech impediment, I guess; maybe that's it.:upset:

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Wise One » 2010 Mar 25 10:42

Yes, Uji, these jerks are definitely consistent.
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803–1882) wrote:A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby fangz1956 » 2010 Apr 12 09:52

Bob's Big Oy!

An excellent read on our illustrious Governor's reversal regarding the role of slavery during the Civil War. Hmmmm.......maybe he was feeling the barbs of more than a few pitchforks.


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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Wise One » 2010 May 01 21:00

Why does Virginia keep electing such boobs to high state office?

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Uji » 2010 May 08 08:55

Cuccinelli is at it again. This one is even farther out there. He wants to prosecute a former UVA faculty for fraud. Why? He used state funds for research to demonstrate the reality of global warming. I hope this one gets to court. This guy Cuccinelli should be disbarred -- forget about impeached.. :banghead:

May 6, 2010

AAUP and ACLU Ask UVA to Resist AG's Attempt to
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Groups say academic freedom will be chilled if school doesn't stand up for teachers

Charlottesville, VA-The American Association of University Professors and the ACLU of Virginia have asked the University of Virginia to fight demands from Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli for documents related to the research of a global warming expert once employed by the school.

According to news reports, Cuccinelli believes that former UVA professor Michael Mann may have violated the Virginia Fraud Against Taxpayers Act when seeking state funding for his research. Mann, now employed by Penn State University, used his research at UVA to assert a scientific basis for global warming.

Rachel Levinson, senior counsel with the American Association of University Professors, said, "The breadth of Attorney General Cuccinelli's request suggests that it is meant to intimidate faculty members and discourage them from pursuing politically controversial work; it's a shot across the bow to all public universities in Virginia. Cuccinelli's injection of politics into the academic arena is profoundly counter not only to the interests of scholars in climate science but to the interests of the state's flagship institution in academic excellence and dispassionate inquiry and to the public interest as a whole in vigorous debate."

"If the Attorney General is merely trying to discredit a scientist with whom he disagrees on climate change, that's a shameful abuse of his office and a real threat to academic freedom in Virginia," said ACLU of Virginia Executive Director Kent Willis.

"But even if the Attorney General's concerns about fraud are sincere, the University should still ask a judge to determine which, if any, of the documents must be turned over," added Willis. "To simply roll over whenever an AG demands information sets a bad precedent that could chill university-based scientific inquiry of any kind in Virginia now and in the future."

While the Attorney General may seek records through a "civil investigative demand" when he has reason to believe that fraud against the state has been committed, Virginia law also gives the University the right to petition the circuit court to modify or set aside the demand.

In their letter to the Board of Visitors of the University of Virginia, AAUP General Counsel Martha S. West and ACLU of Virginia Legal Director Rebecca K. Glenberg write:


The nature of scientific research is to generate debate both within and without the scientific community. Scientists within a field frequently disagree about methodological questions such as how data should be collected, which data are relevant, and how data should be analyzed and interpreted. If scientists refrain from novel methodological approaches because they may be characterized as "fraudulent," then scientific research, and, by extension, society as a whole, will be the loser.

A copy of the letter can be found online at: http://acluva.org/wp-content/uploads/20 ... UVALtr.pdf.

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby Coondog » 2010 May 10 19:29

This guy Cuccinelli should be disbarred -- forget about impeached.....
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It is becoming abundantly clear that both McDonnell and Cuccinelli are suffering from some sort of severe brain damage....or more likely, have become paranormally infested with the torchered spirit of the likes of Jerry Falwell.

There is little likelyhood that Virginia will cease to be the laughing stock of cable news and late night comedy until the services of an accomplished exortist are employed in order to cast out the evil demons. :twisted: :twisted:

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Re: Governor McDumbell

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Re: Governor McDumbell

Postby fangz1956 » 2010 Aug 26 14:13

Well, our illustrious AG Ken Cuccinelli seems to be on mission to turn the clock back just as far and as fast as he can. Looks like it's time for the women of Virginia to move elsewhere. Let's push a little more religious morality down the throats of Virginia's poor, helpless, defenseless, unable- to- think- for -themselves- or- make- a- sound- decision women.

In Ken We Trust


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