The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Anonymoose » 2010 Feb 02 21:54

But, since we're in the Lunatic Fringe category, I'd like to take this opportunity to nominate the NFL for claiming ownership of the term "Who Dat?"

With regard to "Who Dat?", according to SeeingBlack.com, "The chant of "Who Dat?" originated in minstrel shows and vaudeville acts of the late 1800s and early 1900s, and was then taken up by jazz and big band performers in the 1920s and 30s."

Despite their greed, sounds like the NFL has some bad lawyering to even attempt that claim. A quick Google, as you found, would seem to support that the phrase is in the public domain, and can't be copyrighted/trademarked. Even Who Dat, Inc. would be hard pressed to defend their copyright claim to the phrase. You're right, the floodgates have been/will be opened to trying to put a price on any and everything that corporations can remotely lay claim to.

Imagine this sad attempt, from the same folks who are still fighting to deny pensions and disability benefits to permanently disabled players:

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said it is clear that the NFL, which generates more than $7 billion a year in revenue, has the resources but not the will to fix what is becoming a growing public-relations nightmare for the league and its Players Association. Kerry said if the league can't fix its pension and disability problems, he would introduce legislation that would create a fund to address the health and financial needs of scores of ex-players who have become physically broken, depressed, even homeless and suicidal.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footb ... z0ePvLgvnu

This is an old article, but I believe the dispute is still going on. If forced to pay, the NFL, like other corporations, will pass the expense along to the consumers, networks, advertisers, etc. Maybe since we perpetuate the "demand" for football, we should "supply" the remedy? Could there be an NFL-TARP on the horizon?!

Maybe we should just turn off the old Sony, boycott TV, its trappings, and all the irresponsible junk news we are being fed, and see what transpires. (Not until after Super Bowl, of course!) :dontknow:

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Amy Probenski » 2010 Feb 19 15:38

I see that Wise One's prior note about Culpeper schools' suppression of "Anne Frank Diary" has been fixed, sort of.

It's a pretty sad incident.

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Wise One » 2010 May 04 15:31

Thanks for that, Jug.

From today's news, this officially proves that Joe Lieberman is both an asshole and a member of the lunatic fringe.

Do you find constitutional protections of our citizens to be pesky? No problem. Just declare them no longer to be citizens.

Everything is simple in the world of the lunatic .

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Uji » 2010 May 05 09:30

All this reminds us of how close to the edge we are. Either the Bill of Rights protects all of us, or it protects none of us. Once you start making exceptions, anyone can be an exception.

That's why I celebrate the ACLU, even--especially!--when I disagree with them. :salut:

War is the culprit! I don't know how we avoid notions of just war and the like, but there is no way around the fact that it's the exceptions of war (we can kill without due-process) that causes these problems. War is necessary, I suppose, to avoid something worse; but endless warfare means endless strain on civil rights.

We've GOT to end these wars -- not because they are unjust, but because they are destroying our Republic! (How we do that I don't know...) :dontknow:

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Wise One » 2010 May 05 13:54

Uji, you are the man!

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Coondog » 2010 Sep 24 12:44

I post this under this topic because...........I wonder if lunatics are really fringe, or representative of mainstream, apathetic, misinformed, disengaged, bovine and just plain stupid...America!

Or....maybe I'M the Lunatic Fringe, but I'm not crazy enough to vote entirely adverse to my own interests. How is it the filthy rich corporate interests and their congressional flunkies have managed to empassion so many supposedly "intellegent voters" to do exactly that?

What happens when the top 2% have it ALL? Are we to believe they will then invest in businesses that provide goods & services & jobs? Who are they going to service? Who are they going to sell to?

Nope! When they have sucked every last cent out of this country, leaving the rest of us in some sort of modern day indentured servitude, they will embrace that Global Economy they so profess to hate and began sucking that dry, too.

This is the future "intellegent" middle class voters are willing to dress up like the statue of liberty and cast their votes for?

If liberals, moderates, independendents and reasonably rational people aren't "fired up" enough to engage their survival instincts at the polls, then we are all truely doomed to suffer the mass hysteria of the distorted parallel universe the right wing extremists like Boener, Palin, O'Donnell, Angle, McConnell, Beck, Limbaugh and the wing nuts currently running the State of Virginia would seek to impose on us!

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(CNN) - With a little over a month until Election Day, Congressional Republicans have the clear advantage with voters nationwide, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll says.

In a generic ballot matchup, the Republican leads the Democrat by 9 points among likely voters - 53 percent to 44 percent.


That spread is slightly smaller than the 55-42 percent advantage Democrats had at the same point in 2006, ahead of their major electoral victories that handed them control of both the House and Senate.

But the new survey suggests Republicans could be in even a better position than they were in 1994, when the GOP stunned the Democrats with their gain of 54 seats in the House and eight seats in the upper chamber. In a generic matchup poll in late September of 1994, Republicans only had a 3-point edge over Democrats, 48-45 percent.

The new CNN poll also suggests more than 20 percent of likely voters have still yet to make up their minds when it comes to whom they will vote for – a margin that could ultimately decide whether Democrats hold onto tenuous majorities.

The new poll interviewed 1,010 adult Americans by telephone between September 21-23. It carries a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

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"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Suffering through Hank...a classic!!

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 07 16:12

Are you one of the 2.8 million hits of this little GEM?

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Sam » 2011 Jan 07 19:05

Golly Miss Molly, can't believe I sat and listened to these two. Oh that was painful.
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 07 21:49

Don't make me chuckle Sam, it HURTS...

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Sam » 2011 Jan 08 08:54

Hey Friend, sorry about the hurting part, I know a little about that.

Just read the following fro the National Journal.

"Previously unreleased results from the 2010 exit polls show a stark gap between whites and minorities and a smaller but still significant difference between blue- and white-collar whites.

"First among those was Obama’s performance. Exactly 75 percent of minority voters said they approved; only 22 percent said they disapproved. Among white voters, just 35 percent approved of the president’s performance, while 65 percent disapproved; a head-turning 49 percent of whites said they strongly disapproved. (Those whites voted Republican last fall by a ratio of 18-to-1.)"

And Folks this is not about racism so don't get your pants in a knot.
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Wise One » 2011 Jan 08 12:12

Yep, count me among white males who voted for Obama who are dissatisfied with his performance on a number of important issues. That fact does not yet make me a Republican though, since I disapprove of them even more. But the polling result:
Sam wrote: ... a head-turning 49 percent of whites said they strongly disapproved. (Those whites voted Republican last fall by a ratio of 18-to-1.)

How could this 18:1 ratio be surprising? Why would a voter choose a party that he strongly disapproves of? I'm surprised it isn't a bazillion:1.
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Postby Sam » 2011 Jan 08 14:01

Hey Man, I'm not Republican either. I call myself a conservative. I have been unhappy with both parties. I find most politicans to be self serving among many negatives. And gotta say, I find it intolerable that they can retire with a whopping retirement after only a number of years in Congress or the Senate. I understand that they are exempt from the Obama Care Bill. Not sure about that one.
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Wise One » 2011 Jan 08 14:32

I don't know what you've heard, but if it is a lot of stuff circulating on the internets about Congressional pensions that is just flat wrong.

Congressmen have exactly the same pension as all federal employees do. No more, no less.

Their pensions grow with time served, with shared contributions coming from both the employee and the employer. Every paycheck has a retirement contribution deducted from it. The more is deducted, the larger the pension.

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Ignore Reality and foster Insanity...just for kicks.

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 15 22:53

Watch Bill, James, a female Dem, and the token Republican.... LISTEN CLOSE and ENJOY THE RIDE...

There is so much here... This is a sad.
The outright call of the left to use the acts of a psychotic for political advantage...
Cite the assassination of JFK by a LEFTIST as what propelled civil rights legislation as an example...
The blaming of the "partisan POLITICS(republicans/tea party), talk radio(conservative), and cable TV(fox)" for the actions of this psychotic, WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE.
Then admit there is no EVIDENCE.
Then attack (Christians?) who believe in Creation.
(this is supposed to bolster the argument, by what, comparing the Left's fanciful blame to a Faith they disagree with?)
Then the BIG BAD NRA... (The People will resist the loss of Liberty...)
"If he didn't have a gun..." (but he did...)
Throw in the old Mental Health Care Inadequacy Lament...(yup, STILL blame shifting...Reagan's fault I guess)
"One side is more to blame because they have been fighting for the right to own ASSAULT rifles"
(What an ignoramus...) [i]THEN
...
"this guy would have done this ANYWAY, as it had nothing to do with heated political rhetoric, or talk radio"!
THIS WOULD BE FUNNY if is wasn't so INSANE!!
...then the political rhetoric blame again.
"he might have shot his parents , or a "girlfriend who jilted him"
Whatever. He had an obsession with Giffords, who in his sick mind "jilted" him. He was a NUT.
He BROKE PLENTY OF LAWS!!! The local Authorities REALLY dropped the ball.
"He shot a politician, it was a 2nd amendment remedy". What silly out of context sarcasm... More of the same.
A quick bit of selective moral outrage about offensive political speech, and then more wit by the gun demagogue:
"He MIGHT not have shot that many people had he NOT had that GLOCK".

This really is rich... Blame the gun. Ban the mag. Blame the Glock. Assault the word "assault". Slight a religious Faith. Attack with selective moral outrage. Attack the 2nd amendment and individual CHOICE and LIBERTY. Blame the Right, the Tea Party, Palin, Foxtv and Hannity, Overlook those LOFTY PRAISEWORTHY WORDS OF OBAMA. Use schizophrenic murder to cheaply play politics while ignoring the facts... Attack free speech.

FAIL to see how all of this "heated" blather from the Left, IF one SUFFERS from the LOGIC stated, just [i]CREATES the very climate you accuse the right of fostering... & FAIL to take any PERSONAL responsibility for it...[/i] Only the right exhibits HATE and EXTREEEEMISM.... Right? http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/th ... 2000-2010/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/san ... 33487.html ...and it is said that hind sight is 20-20 but let's just be rational here.

THIS is a continuation of a Leftist Insanity, which has in predictably hyperbolic knee-jerk blame-shifting demagogic fashion, since the shootings in Tuscon, sought to take sick political advantage, and pin the actions of a Gabby Giffords obsessed pot-smoking Karl Marx-reading psychotic smirking disconnected from reality registered "independent" who didn't even vote in 2010 22 year old skull shrine fixated multiple death threat making high school drop out fan of the Communist Manifesto loner "left wing" community college expelled "marijuana is the new currency" grammar fixated assassination plotting Jackwagon "who didn't watch TV or listen to political radio" lunatic's murders on:

The Tea Party, Palin, the "extreme right wing", Martial Metaphor, Limbaugh, Republican "hate speech", Angle, selective political campaign ad maps with targets on them, guns, Beck, Arizona Gun Laws, Hannity, Savage, and on and on and on... Well, I shouldn't get too worked up because there are those who differ. According to a CBS poll today... as this is the kind of violent martial speech some have been blasting... Talk about OVER THE TOP!! Short short read.
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Sam » 2011 Jan 16 08:55

Well Folks, been thinking which isn't always a good thing for me. But, it seems to me that here in our country whenever this kind of thing such as Arizona happens everyone gets to blaming everything they can think of. And I like to say this Folks, I have done a lot of living and seen allot and I have to tell you, events such as this one, while tragic, don't happen as often as they do in Iraq or Afghanistan for example. Now those folks have to live with the violence on a daily basis. It's not just politicians, celebrities as such that get blown up it's just the average ordinary people who get caught in the violence also.

So Folks, I was thinking, not always a good thing for me, that we live in a country where these acts are rare and of course bring country wide attention which causes the media, politicians and talk show hosts to rant and rave about who or what caused it etc. Don't any of you think about how safe our country is especially when you compare it to other countries? How fortunate we are to live in this country, which has its flaws, in relative safety. We can go shopping without a great amount of fear that we will be blown up by a suicide bomber for example. True when we go out in public we can suffer any kind of bad event.

Arizona is among three or four states with really good mental health laws. Now if we are to blame anyone, it could be those folks in contact with this fellow who was crazy and gotten him committed to a psychiatric hospital. The folks from the college where he was attending did nothing except to give his parents a letter regarding his return to the college. Now if there is blame to be had then why not blame the College or even his parents. In many interviews I saw on TV, time after time, the people said they were afraid of this crazy Joe. Could it be possible people were afraid of being sued? If that is the case then it would be necessary for our society to put into place some good tort reform.

Just the ramblings from your senior citizen.
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ANOTHER (d)EMO-crat "NAZI" name caller...

Postby Crux » 2011 Jan 19 22:14

This partisan targeting is REALLY getting old. PATHETIC. Firing off this kind of bombast, might detonate an incendiary atmosphere in society...
:violent5: The left is always tossing around Nazi labels... :clap:

Nazi Party: The National Socialist German Workers' Party (, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party (from the Ger. pronunciation of Nationalsozialist), was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP) prior to a change of name in 1920.

Sounds more like something OTHER than Conservative Capitalists, Libertarians, or Republicans or... TEA PARTY politics... :thumbup:

..see how all of this "heated" blather from the Left, IF one SUFFERS from the LOGIC stated, just [i]CREATES the very climate you accuse the right of fostering... No, I think this guy was an angry liberal before he took a photograph of a Tea Party member, threatened him publicly with, "You're DEAD!", was arrested, and was involuntarily committed...as Jared Lee Loughner SHOULD have been by the dem sheriff Dupnik. He should simply be held accountable for HIS actions.
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Coondog » 2011 Jan 20 13:31

“They say it's a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels," Cohen said. "You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it.

Sometimes comparison to Nazis, or in this case, the methodology of Nazis, is an apt comparison. Typically, the feighned indignation fails to make the distinction between calling people Nazis and saying they act like them. Or, maybe they just feel they have some monopoly on using the Nazi analogy and resent someone else using it.

I would not have used the term Nazi. It's trite! Carl Rove serves as an adequate contemporary example of similar neferious intent. He, after all, invented the modern day version of personal destruction, incivility, distortion and lies that so permeates the current landscape and has done so since the 2004 election campaign.

I'd rather be called a Nazi than a Rovian Stooge!

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