The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby crux » 2011 Jan 20 20:06

coondog wrote:Typically, the feighned indignation fails to make the distinction between calling people Nazis and saying they act like them.

It is always comical at best to see a Socialist call Capitalists, "Nazis" ...or, compare the desire to support free enterprise, capitalism, and the private sector with "Nazi Tactics".

...and Presidential Material? :tongue3: OMG!!! I just don't know what to say... :dontknow: ... :hum: This is the archetypal modern progressive Democrat MAN. :tiphat: :laughing: ...dang... :help2: This collective blame, inappropriate guilt, and misplaced shame, typifies the post-modern Liberal Stud... :pat: This kind of psychology is attractive to the Liberal Woman! :pompom: :pompom: :pompom:
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2011 Aug 05 15:00

It is a distinct pleasure to give the stage to a Republican, one of the few willing to repudiate the lunatic fringe to do the honorable and smart thing. (sorry for the ad)
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Too funny.

Postby crux » 2011 Aug 05 19:03

Linking to THE NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR, an ICONIC tea party governor in some definitive respects, who makes a couple criticisms you appreciate, all after sitting through an Exxon advertisement touting America as having the largest know oil reserves in the world!!!

Thanks for that. Try this: http://www.iviewtube.com/v/151141/nj-go ... l-reporter

Listen close to the kind governor who you probably think is "failing to govern" or making New Jersey "ungovernable".

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby autosandeconomics » 2011 Aug 06 17:52

I tried to look at the postings but found it hard to follow them -- "crux" for example seems to use "socialist" to mean anyone (s)he doesn't like. I spent time in the Soviet Union, in the old Yugoslavia, with Socialist Party members in Japan, and even communists in numbers of countries. That end of the political spectrum simply doesn't exist in the US. Obama's economic policies are almost identical to those of Bush -- he is to the right of the Republican Party of the 1960s.

Puh-leaze. If you want people to read, you have to write in English, not your own language.
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Amy Probenski » 2011 Aug 06 18:17

You are so correct. But, puh-leaze, do not put us all into the dark corner that guy occupies. Other participants here are sharp as a tack, humorous, and very much in touch with the real world.

Maybe you've touched on a kind of inflation of language. Just as four-letter words don't carry the oomph or clarity they used to because of overuse, so also do the words you mentioned.

I knew some real socialists and you, Mr. Obama, are no socialist.
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socialism/ attack watch

Postby crux » 2011 Aug 06 18:42

Look. Take your pick. Socialism, or fascism. Look up the definitions. Think STUDENT LOANS, GM, the recent HEALTHCARE legislation that DICTATES TO THE PRIVATE companies what they must offer. Give me a little break JERK. Try to sound at least a little on the ball. Obama to the right of the 1960's, or ANY OTHER ERA republican(s)?

autosandeconomics wrote:I tried to look at the postings but found it hard to follow them -- "crux" for example... Obama's economic policies are almost identical to those of Bush -- he is to the right of the Republican Party of the 1960s.

Sheer STUPIDITY. Who the hell do you think you are? What utter nonsense... Try a little harder to pay attention.
,,,ok. Second Chance. Pick an issue or assertion where I said "socialist" and briefly explain why I am off base. YOU CAN NOT DO IT. I can not believe what passes for intelligent assertions. First it's 'dog with his wino v. billionaire/economic stimulus crap, then it is the arrogant one and his daily talking points which bear little reflection to tea party reality, and now OBAMA is more a REPUBLICAN that the 1960's GOP!!! This is pathetic.

Look Friend. I don't mean to get off on the wrong foot, but you might consider changing your moniker to autosonly, although you might demonstrate some knowledge there-in first. Seriously. Find a post where I used the socialist, OR fascist tag and you disagree with the usage IN CONTEXT to the flow of the thread and my post.
YOU CAN NOT DO IT, despite your :pompom: Amy. :tiphat:

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This you will enjoy.
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The Commies are Coming!

Postby Juggler » 2011 Sep 25 11:04

Our world is being turned upside down. If the the world's most conservative country allows this liberal assault, can America be far behind?

The next thing you know commies will want taxes on rich people to be raised to the same percentage all the rest of us pay.

Intolerable!
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The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby crux » 2011 Sep 25 15:43

Well thank you for that Lunatic Analogy. You are clearly demonstrating something... Certainly not analogy. FYI. The wealthiest on average pay like 24% income tax. We have looked at the charts here. We have been over this. The wealthiest pay a higher average rate, than those of less income, and on down through the brackets. Show me otherwise. Cripes. You are mistaken.

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays- ... taxes.html

Pay attention to the CBO. This will show you the nature of your false premise.

http://www.cbo.gov/publications/collect ... collect=13

So to sum up what you are not aware of.

-Actual average tax rates paid after deductions, are HIGHER as you look to HIGHER incomes. The wealthier DO pay more on average, than all other income strata.
-The wealthy pay the BULK of the taxes. The top 1% pays 40% of the tax, the top 10% pays 70%...

DUDE. Admit this reality BEFORE you peddle silly analogy.
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Enlightenment?

Postby coondog » 2011 Sep 26 13:23

I have to admit that I'm confused.....and would appreciate an explanation.

I have ever sought to understand the right wing. Why they believe what they do. I understand their viewpoint concerning many things. I don't agree with it, but I basically understand why they believe what they do.

Except........I cannot understand the enduring affinity for the rich. What is it about the rich that so enamours the consevatives? What is it that is so admirable that their station in life needs to be marginally protected....even at the expense of all else be it necessary? Is it their glitzy attire? The cars they ride in? The entertainment they provide at super market checkout counters?

I cannot seem to wrap my brain around what it is that makes 35% of the population so adamently opposed to relatively small tax increases on the rich.....or the loopholes afforded for their extravagances. Are business tycoons who pad their already exhorborant fortunes by laying off workers, soulless corporations, football quarterbacks, talentless rock stars and the permanently laissez faire entitled to that much more?

Because the poor, the unemployed and the elderly pay no taxes, the rich deserve parity? How so?

Surely we do not really believe that additional tax breaks for the rich will inspire them to open new factories and hire more people to manufacture more goods that no one has money to buy. If so, industry would be pumping out new cars, mattresses, and Popiel pocket fishermen at an astounding rate unseen in the 50 years that taxes are now lower than. And the supply would be swallowed up by demand unprecidented over the same time period.

But logic and reason aside.............what's so endearing about the rich?

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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

Postby Juggler » 2011 Sep 26 14:24

Send me $500,000 in small bills (don't want this discovered or I'd have to pay tax on it), and I'll tell you.
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What it is about:

Postby crux » 2011 Sep 26 17:08

Liberty and Justice. It is about this...
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Re: The Lunatic Fringe - Examples & Comments

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