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Not the same...

Postby Crux » 2011 Feb 23 16:22

Actually SHOWING up and VOTING is NOT the same as fleeing the State silly...

There was every opportunity in the last 2 years to address the Union contract implications. OH. There was an ELECTION TOO where THE VERY THING that the Governor, and State Legislature is doing, was clearly LAID OUT BEFORE THE VOTERS...

They sent the Dems PACKING...so to speak.

Sour Grapes is not Ideology...unless it is the Donkey politics of victim-hood.

DEMOCRATS...
:sip: Here is another case in point: OBAMA-He has again chosen, CHOSEN to NOT follow THE LAW.

Read this and be outraged.

This guy is an empty suit, IDEOLOGUE. He has LIED SO MANY TIMES it would be comical to try to enumerate them... Take his oath of office to uphold the law. THIS is really quite a story... HOPE YOU LIKE IT!

If it is disturbing, just take another toke of that Hopium filled BONG, and it will seem like no BIG DEAL...

crux...because I CARE... :cool:
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Re: Socialism?

Postby Coondog » 2011 Feb 24 13:24

Here's an old Coondogism:

Never trust a republican with power and never trust a democrat with your wallet!

I've had to revise that part about the wallet since the Bush Administration.......but the first part holds true. Over and over again, it has been demonstrated by republicans that, afforded power, they set about instantly to abuse it.

The hand of corporate influence is evident in their Tax Policies
The hand of right wing evangelical fundamentalists is manifest in their obsession with Abortion.
The itchy trigger fingers of the NRA is apparent in their efforts to extend unlimited gun rights to pre-natal citizens.
Homophobia abounds.......not to mention racial bigotry, blatent sexism and class warfare.

As far as Obama not "following the rule of law" over gay marriage (another phobic fixation), be glad of his timidity. If he adopted the republican prosectuorial playbook, the entire Bush Administration would be writing their memoirs from a prison cell.

Coondog :joker:

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Hey Dingo.GET A CLUE!

Postby Crux » 2011 Feb 24 19:28

Regarding DOMA: The President’s refusal to defend DOMA, a federal statute, was enacted by overwhelming margins in the Senate (85 - 14) and House (342 - 67) and signed into law by President Clinton...

Oh, and who created, and who expanded, the Earned Income Tax Credit? :hum:

I really have no idea what you mean about extending 2nd amendment rights to pre-natal babies... :shakeh:

coondog wrote:Homophobia abounds.......not to mention racial bigotry, blatent sexism and class warfare.

This is really silly hyperbole. Homophobia. Give me a break. The kind of mild PROBLEM folks have with gayness (for obvious reasons) pales compared to the pronounced VITRIOL spewed CONSTANTLY by the Left towards those they differ with...

SEXISM? :joker: I will tell you why you are a joker. Just LOOK at the absolute UGLY attacks made against Conservative women CONSTANTLY... You will not cop to the PRONOUNCED double standard. You even feign selective OUTRAGE that M.Bachmann would take issue with M.Obama's "breast pump/tax credit" idea, and the sordid ATTACK upon a FIRST LADY.

You Dingo, are ridiculous.

crux

Why don't you try to express just a wee bit more sense...and a little less sensimilla...
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Re: Socialism?

Postby Sam » 2011 Feb 25 07:31

crux wrote:SEXISM? :joker: I will tell you why you are a joker. Just LOOK at the absolute UGLY attacks made against Conservative women CONSTANTLY... You will not cop to the PRONOUNCED double standard. You even feign selective OUTRAGE that M.Bachmann would take issue with M.Obama's "breast pump/tax credit" idea, and the sordid ATTACK upon a FIRST LADY.

I absolutly agree and gotta tell you my wife has been so vocal in our household about this particular issue. She keeps saying she can't understand why the demos are so interested in all the others isms but not about how conservative women are being treated in our country. Just as you, we both feel they have a double standard.

And Folks on another note, I see that Rahm was elected mayor on Tuesday in Chicago and on Thursday the Obama administration approved a $35 million contract with Boeing in Chicago. Now lets see can't understand how the demos would go for that as they are against anything rich.
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It's ...the basic Home Team CHEER from the duplicitous left.

Postby Crux » 2011 Feb 25 07:57

"Rascism! Sexism! Anti-Gay!" :pompom: :pompom: :pompom: :pompom: :pompom:

The funny thing is they are SOOOOOO serious!

OH BOY but if a Black Conservative speaks out, or a Conservative Woman gets in to a position of power, or a gay man or woman articulates the case AGAINST the "agenda"... :hiding2:

WATCH OUT FOR THE SPIT THAT'S FLYING, DUCK, and then just kick back and watch the comedy show...

:beer:

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Re: Socialism?

Postby Coondog » 2011 Feb 25 13:49

Just LOOK at the absolute UGLY attacks made against Conservative women CONSTANTLY
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Once again, we deviate from the point to address some stray tidbit of absurd propaganda. OK, I'll bite!

Your choice of capitalization of the word UGLY rings of irony, considering that it is the predominate adjective applied to liberal women by conservatives.

Conservative women?

Sarah Palin
Ann Coulter
Sharon Angle
Michelle Bachmann
Christine O'Donnell
Michelle Maulkin

It's not because they're Women.........it's because they're IDIOTS!

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Re: Socialism?

Postby Sam » 2011 Feb 25 14:52

Hey Coondog, just wondering if you ate too many paint chips when you were little. As my wife would say, you are is living proof that man can live without a brain. Some how I don't believe that you are the only one in the litter.

I was always taught to treat all women with respect. Something my Dad did with my mother and all women he can into contact. I still believe that.
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Re: Socialism?

Postby Coondog » 2011 Feb 25 16:28

Oh Pshaw, Sam!

Coondog has the utmost respect for women. But they do say the damnest things!

Coondog :beer:

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent.
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Re: Socialism?

Postby Sam » 2011 Feb 25 20:28

Idiot used to referr to someone mentally retarded. It now referrs to someone who is uneducated or ignorant. I don't believe all the women you mentioned are. Pal, I don't believe Obama is an idiot but do think of some other names I could call him. But I think he is smart just doesn't have much common sense. I could say lots more, but will hold my tongue.

I don't believe these women you listed are itiots. I don't care a fiddle stick for Pelosie, but don't believe she is an idiot, just going down the wrong path.

So Pal, you disagree with them, but they sure aren't idiots. Maybe what you see in them is yourself.
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More VIOLENCE from the Union Thugs...

Postby Crux » 2011 Feb 27 00:20

...against the Tea Party dude...

This just goes on and on and on... SHISH BOOM BAH!!! :pompom: :pompom: :pompom: :pompom: :pompom:

All this "violent extreme right wing" CRAP is so pathetic. WHY? Because the Left will not acknowledge, set aside DENOUNCE, this aggressive posturing from their own.
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Denouncements

Postby Coondog » 2011 Feb 28 12:54

I already denounced violence and bad rhetoric. So, unless you're going to argue that Coondog is not left, then the left has made it's denouncements. And since anything said by one leftist is taken by conservativers to represent all leftists......Coondog speaks for all leftists.

There! Feel Better? (I do like your sense of humor, though....it's more warped than mine!)

I don't have time to argue the fine points of semantics as to where we draw the idiot line. Like everything else, it has to do with perspective. But, you may be right. Unintelligable comments by someone truely mentally handicapped are to be excused. If you're not certifiably mentally handicapped and you say idiotic stuff, well, I guess that makes you a Far Right Ethnocentric And Conservative Knucklehead. Or.....FREAK, for short!

I'm copywriting that, by the way!

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Re: Socialism?

Postby Sam » 2011 Mar 01 07:55

coondog wrote:I don't have time to argue the fine points of semantics as to where we draw the idiot line. Like everything else, it has to do with perspective. But, you may be right. Unintelligible comments by someone truly mentally handicapped are to be excused. If you're not certifiably mentally handicapped and you say idiotic stuff, well, I guess that makes you a Far Right Ethnocentric And Conservative Knucklehead. Or.....FREAK, for short!

Just wondering my fine feathered friend, don't you need a license to say that. Funny stuff. The perspective of a self avowed SOCIALIST. Funny...
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Wisconsin, birthplace of public sector unions...

Postby Crux » 2012 Jun 05 07:01

Today is the day. Walker, will not be recalled. This is huge...

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Re: Socialism?

Postby Sam » 2012 Jun 06 06:40

Yes, Yes, Yes he won
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HUGE

Postby Crux » 2012 Jun 06 08:02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS0Dqz2P ... _embedded#!

Walker won by a larger margin, than BO vs. McCain nationally in 2008. Walker ran on his record of accomplishments...

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Re: Socialism?

Postby Coondog » 2012 Jun 06 10:51

Congratulations to the Koch Brothers. The corporate proxy meat puppet they bought and paid for should perform admirably for yet a few more years.

So, let us celebrate the dominion of corporations and billionaires over the nation of sheep who, 56% of whom, it seems, will believe anything they're told over and over and over because...........thay saw it on the TV.

Template for the nation? Well.....we'll have to wait and see. But it's surely the template for conservative politics for installing the most obedient surrogates money can buy.

I wonder if the successes boasted by republican governors while they reaped the benefits of stimilus money they took advantage of while claiming it didn't help, will bear up when they're left to make their own way. Or......will their corporate overlords somehow decide to fund bridges and roads of their own accord? Nah! Never happen!

It's either rollerball ............... or the zombie apocalypse!

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The Koch Brothers?

Postby Crux » 2012 Jun 06 18:30

The koch brothers? This was a win for the TAXPAYERS and the PEOPLE! The COMMON man. Many Union Members voted for Walker, exit polls indicate. We know that Union Members do not UNIVERSALLY follow the Dem Union Guidance...

You ARE thick...and empty friend. Walker won by more than two years ago to the same fella. Both are KNOWN QUANTITIES in the progressive state of Wisconsin, that voted for BO on 08 by 16% margin. Don't be such a dope.

You might not like it but even 110% voter turnout in Madison and the Union Machine could not convince an informed populace. Sorry. Wake the hell up 'dog and get your nose out of your, well, never-mind...

crux :crab:

I suppose the Devil (the koch bros.) got to the good people of California too, who in two MAJOR CITIES rejected defined benefits for city workers? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... sion-cuts/

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Re: Socialism?

Postby Sam » 2012 Jun 07 07:36

It seems to me that Obama is certainly in the money as he goes about hobnobbing with the rich and famous. come on Pal the money trail is prevalent in the democrats .

Way to go Crux. Like your literary style
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Re: Socialism?

Postby Coondog » 2012 Jun 11 16:10

Americans are ever ready to put the screws to someone, deny something to somebody or disenfranchise anybody that ain't them with the power of the vote, ignoring the greater spirit of democracy and turning what was once a principled democratic process into what has now become mob rule. Where the nation's constitution has very high minded notions which prevail in theory if not always in practice, state courts and legislarors operate on a far less scrupulous set of standards.

Before we celebrate the systematic dismanteling of unions for purely political purposes....we might set the way-back machine to the 1890's and recall why unions were formed in the first place. It took not a small measure of violence and bleeding to eke out some collective decency from the abusive practices of the past. Perhaps some unions got a bit bloated or a lot bloated depending on one's perspective, but unions are still made up of individuals and management is still made up of capitalistic opportunists who will suck the very marrow out of individuals given half a chance.

In any social structure, there are the powerful and the weak. Just as in nature, when the weak are prevented from gathering together in herds, they are picked off one by one by the predators. Nature understands that when the prey is decimated, the predators eventually die, too. Capitalism is not designed to work that way, either. I took economics in college and didn't understand a whole lot.....but it doesn't take an Einstein to know that a cat eating it's own tail soon painfully ceases to function properly if at all.

Nowhere in the constitution is an unfettered, darwinian capitalistic system guarenteed. There is a continuing need to balance the necessity of freedom with the wisdom of restraint as events and circumstances evolve. The "free market", left to it's own devises, will inevitably, like the cat, have choked itself to death on fur balls.

The problem is, the prey in this situation.....the individual (or fur ball as it were) doesn't simply disappear into the food chain like a toy company being devoured by an alternative asset management and financial services company that specializes in private equity, venture capital, credit ... They're still out there moving around. And they're not happy campers! Ready to choke something. They might eat yer face! Aggggh! Zombie Apocalypse! :rant:

Coondog

Question: How many rich,low life, hollywood celebrity scum suckers does Obama have to hang out with to even the scales for Romney brown nosing up to Donald Trump?

Answer: All of them!

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Live in the NOW

Postby Crux » 2012 Jun 11 17:16

We really don't need a way-back machine. That was then this is NOW.

As is your way, Hyperbole and Demagoguery, you seem to believe falsely that there is some DISMANTLING of Unions. I suppose Wisconsin is your example? ...or those two major cities in California? You really are not even TRYING to understand what the People in these cases voted for.

Unrestrained Darwinist Capitalism? This is what you think we either have, or are likely to get?

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: , :pat: , :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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