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Postby Veeferguy » 2008 Aug 21 12:19

On the Rockbridge Advocate ...

I just wanted to know how the people who read the Rockbridge Advocate feel about the paper in general. I’ve been reading each issue from cover to cover since May and find it amazing that the pulse of the area really seems to be captured by the publication, or does it? Maybe I’m just naïve, but it does seem informative. Does the paper represent the factual side of the stories it covers or is the other side of the story covered with fairness? I’m not asking for a dissertation on any one story, just a few opinions from some of you who are native to the area. I realize that one of you might even write for the Advocate but I don't mind reading your opinion. Thanks

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Uji » 2008 Aug 21 16:37

For what it's worth, I think the Advocate is great. (I even took out one of their life-time subscriptions.) "All the News that Fits" is worth the price of admission. The film reviews are pretty silly, all and all -- but aside from that, I'm a fan.

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Juggler » 2008 Aug 26 11:22

Me too!

And its "The News" section is just about the only place to find out what's really happening around here.

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Juggler » 2008 Oct 07 13:53

I was reading through my latest (October 2008) issue, and I came upon a letter entitled "Stop trusting the bandits."

It covers subjects, in a tone, that remind me of a very distinguished participant here on the Rockbridge Forum. Does anybody else see this, or am I cuckoo?

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby fangz1956 » 2008 Oct 07 17:27

Ever looked at someone and thought "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"?

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Juggler » 2008 Oct 07 18:29

That's the one!!!

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby annehewitt » 2008 Nov 02 18:37

Doug is a witch hunter. He does not tell both sides of the story and lives for the ugliest news. He delights in screaming headlines about the downfall of local citizens. If there is no conflict or controversy, he will invent one. Maybe because he came of age in the Woodward and Bernstein era. Perhaps he is a frustrated lawyer who has never learned the rules of evidence.

Subjects of his schaenfreude are guilty until proven innocent and after being pilloried in his paper, their guilt is indelible in the community. His campaign to implicate the Sheriff's department in the death of a troubled young man admitted to Western State years ago was truly unconscionable.

Reading the Advocate one would think this area only produces, murderers, child molesters, con artists, book burners, brutal police and a host of other depraved criminals.

Also, his reprints of civil war accounts don't help the image of a community considered to be stuck in the past. His Nov. 1 issue on the eve of election, mentioning a century old murder by a young black man with... African savagery in his genes, and the receding forehead of a West African... made me cringe and hope that the people in Lexington from West Africa do not read the article. (there are several)

Another problem is that he seeks out letters written to other people and prints them as letters to the editor. Many writers have been surprised and unhappy to find their letters printed in the Advocate.

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Wise One » 2008 Nov 02 20:33

Huh? I'm not tracking on your points.

It's a news magazine, for pete's sake ... not all news has "two sides."

And sometimes the news is not quite as cute as butterflies and little girls, which would be pleasant but rather dull. I can get plenty of that in Disney movies. Doug seems to have a pretty good nose for the cover-up, so I'm grateful that one medium in our community has the courage to blow whistles.

I want the real local scoop, right up front. I rather like Doug's practice of printing letters from all, even when they are too long and poorly written ... that way he gives writers enough rope to hang themselves! And printing relevant letters from all available sources is often illuminating ... a nice journalistic practice.

There's no shortage of rags printing puffery, sanitized pap, media often serving as mere stenographers to self-serving press releases. I love the because it prints the news that people really care about, and talk about, and argue over at morning coffee.

:tongue3: Well, at least until the day he chooses to print a story about me! :tongue3:

PS. Perhaps you didn't get the memo, but in centuries past a rather nasty streak of racism abounded in these parts. History is an account of past happenings, so expurgating it of a central reality would serve nobody.
"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby fangz1956 » 2008 Nov 02 20:53

annehewitt,

Let me send you a copy of the Salem Times-Register. They don't print anything about crime, malfeasance, or any of the the other ugliness that is the underbelly of every small town or city. Why, I think it would be right up your alley. They most assuredly promote the image of this place being a safe and crime-free community. If you believe that this place has no warts, I have some beachfront property in Arizona to sell you. What that has done is close the eyes of people like my teenage daughter and her peers who believe that nothing bad ever happens in this town. The "news" that is printed is of the Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm variety. If that is what you look to a newspaper for then you are not looking for real news or truth in any manner or fashion. At the time of the incident at Western State, The Advocate was NOT the only paper or news source in the state trying to get to the bottom of the matter. As I recall, the media down here did not paint your Sheriff's department in any kind of good light.....and other papers across the state reflected the same ideas. Fault of The Advocate? I hardly think so. I think some further investigation is in order on your part before you go screaming that the sky is falling and it is all the fault of Mr. Harwood.

I find it interesting that people are offended by what papers print. The Advocate is one of the very few that has the brass to print the truth. And you know what they say about truth? It will set you free, but first it will piss you off. So Lexington and her high & mighty attitude has an image to protect and project? The image that we who live to the south of you have is not a pretty one. That image does not come from sources such as The Advocate. That image comes from personal visits to YOUR community. We find Lexington to be arrogant, snobbish, anally retentive, cold, and unwelcoming. These are images formed by those of us who have lived here all of our lives.......natives of the valley and the Commonwealth. Doesn't say much for Southern hospitality now does it? Seems that you folks might wish to write a little revisionist history while you are at it. Heaven forbid that you would embrace your heritage and your past rather than run and hide from it.

I have witnessed your very attitude right here in this Forum more than once. People looking to move to your area came here asking about services and community life. They were ridiculed, sneered at, and generally ignored. Hmmm......sounds like a visit to the town itself. They certainly were not made to feel welcome. Some of those fine folks opted NOT to move to your fine community.........sarcasm intended.

And just for the record, I have read the other rags that pass for newspapers in your town. Not much news there that I can see......more Pollyanna stuff and sticking your heads in the proverbial sand. And annehewitt, remember that you and your town live in a glass house before you decide to throw any more stones.



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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Coondog » 2008 Nov 03 11:27

Well.....somebody has to hunt down those pesky witches! We can't have them flitting about on their broomsticks, unregulated, like those Warlocks in the Banking Industry.

At the risk of being turned into a newt, I applaud the Advocate's efforts to seperate the natural from the supernatural. Two headed goats are an affront to the sensibilities and luring lost children into gingerbread houses for culinary purposes is simply wrong.

Coondog :joker:

...........and your little dog, too!

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby notwaldo » 2008 Nov 03 21:08

I don't know witch hunts from witch hazel, but i doubt an account of an antique murder is going to cause a riot or change any votes. What ought to have caused a riot was the paper's account of the horrible murder of the patient at Western State... and (i do believe Anne misremembers) the cover-up of that murder, complete with the state's – not the paper's – efforts to blame it on the sheriff's department.

The Advocate broke that story and the story defended the sheriff's department (using dispatcher logs and Western State records to do so). A few years later the Roanoke Times rewrote, updated and embellished the piece after Doug nagged them to do so and sent them a box full of documents and records. After that, some TV stations and other papers jumped on the bandwagon. Some of them, unlike the Advocate, hedged their bets on the sheriff's department by swallowing some BS from the state that Doug had completely discredited.

The Times won a $10,000 prize and a bunch of awards. I doubt if they shared the money.

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby fangz1956 » 2008 Nov 04 11:23

Bravo, notwaldo!!

You said it best and you said it all.

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby 10thFO » 2008 Nov 04 14:11

As a one time aspiring journalist, or writer, in the mode of Lewis Grizzard, Jr. I find Doug's work to be very worthwhile, and a breath of fresh air into the journalism of today. Doug still does it the right way. he gets out, and finds out information, through lunches and coffee's with people in town. He doesn't make up articles, or do it the lazy way. He actually researches his stories.

I'd hate to be the subject of one of his articles, and my father always said he advertised with Doug to keep his name out of his periodical, jokingly. I sincerely find it to be the one piece of news literature that I can find these days, that is professional enough, to make money, and do it the right way.

You can find all kinds of blogs up now to push one's point of view, but it's rare to find a publication that does it this well.

Keep on keeping on Doug. Your a good stalwart of the past.

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Veeferguy » 2008 Nov 24 09:30

Well, it took awhile to pick up a head of steam, but I think most of you have put down what needed to be said in your many opinions. Thanks for all the news about the news so far. :cool:

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2008 Dec 01 12:30


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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Veeferguy » 2008 Dec 10 14:39

I think the Rockbridge Advocate stated the overall feeling towards the Lexington police department this month. I believe in law and order, but I will agree with the article(s) that refer to the overbearing police state. It’s no wander locals don’t want to spend time downtown much less, the tourist. :banghead:

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby fangz1956 » 2008 Dec 30 18:12

Ever looked at someone and thought "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"?

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The News-Gazette

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Advocates Blantant Disrespect of Irish Creek

Postby crunch » 2009 Nov 08 21:14

Dear Advocate I would like to know who on your staff has an issue with Irish Creek and the people who reside there? Every word in your article titled " Virginia's war on the families of Irish Creek" is disrespectful, and outright insulting to the families who lived and continue to live on Irish Creek. The question and answer part of the article is more like an Interrogation and answer! Your headline say's it all! The advocate owes the good people of Irish Creek an apology and not another article bad mouthing the community.

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Re: The Rockbridge Advocate

Postby Amy Probenski » 2009 Nov 08 22:28

This sounds like a delicious controversy. My issue of the Advocate has not yet arrived, but maybe I have something to look forward to?!


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