Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

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Coon G a fine example of a Progressive Male

Postby Crux » 2015 Aug 24 10:45

Coondog wrote:We can also forgive crux...as he apparently has sand in his vagina and it's making him uncharacteristically grumpy

Coon G will on this Forum references genitalia and all things sexual to an obscene and strange degree. :shakeh:
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Coondog wrote: ...however justice is administered, it needs to be administered equitably among criminals and cops who are equally accountable if they break the law. There may be some sense that cops should be held to a higher standard, not a lesser one, than criminals, but we can let that go for now.

If only YOU could live up to this.... You are so skewed it is pathetic. You are a bigoted jerk, through and through.

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2015 Sep 22 23:53

Another unnecessary violence-prone cop, surrounded by sensible people and lots of video cameras, is peer-pressured into behaving more sensibly.

We can turn this violence by cop around, but it is a strong and perverted culture that we all need to work at breaking.

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Wise One » 2015 Sep 27 23:32

This is what should happen ... responsible supervisors guiding policemen to behave within the law and with respect for citizens. It's nice to see when it happens, and so very disappointing when it is missing.

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Mike Brown was a thug.

Postby Crux » 2015 Oct 29 19:33

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10 ... e-outcome/

This guy handled an encounter with police the right way, the way thousands of citizens handle encounters with police EVERY DAY.

So called LIBERALS are losers. :shakeh:

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Wise One

Postby Wise One » 2015 Oct 30 09:32

In the world of radical conservatives, the word "thug" is reserved for black people who are beaten up and/or killed by white people.

Just thought you'd like that grammar lesson. Don't want anybody here to slip and misuse the word as redefined nowadays by Fox TV.

Crux conforms nicely and consistently, so learn from him.

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I admit I think you are a fool. Then you amaze me again.

Postby Crux » 2015 Oct 30 17:21


At how really truly foolish you are. AND MISTAKEN. I am a long time observer of popular culture. Music. Trends. Political philosophy and LIFE.


Wise One wrote:In the world of radical conservatives, the word "thug" is reserved for black people who are beaten up and/or killed by white people. Just thought you'd like that grammar lesson.


The use of the word THUG, by blacks to describe black criminal activity and criminals is so ubiquitous as to make you sound like a complete dolt.
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I use the word thug to describe someone who deals in thuggish behavior. From Merriam-Webster to Tupac Shakur. You just spout foolishness.
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Webster's: noun a violent criminal, a brutal ruffian, and gangster :pat:

AO, this is a very commonly used word that is not used by whites against blacks somehow exclusively, despite your PC attempt at intelligence.
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Now as to TUPAC. Ever hear of him? Notorius B.I.G.? Snoop Doggy Dogg?

tupac THUG LIFE.jpg
tupac THUG LIFE.jpg (9.53 KiB) Viewed 2634 times


That right there is Tupac Shakur in the middle giving YOU the finger, with THUG LIFE tattooed on his belly. The "I" is a bullet by the way, AO.

From the Urban Dictionary:

THUG LIFE
1) acronym for "The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everyone". This acronym was made popular by American rap artist 2Pac.
2) The Codes Of Thug Life where a set of codes written by 2Pac. The codes where designed to give order to the rise of gang violence and drug dealing. It made certain immoral actions, against the code which, would become a code of the street.
These codes where signed by heads from the Bloods and Crips at a peace treaty picnic called the Truc Picnic, in California in 1992.
3) Thug Life was a rap group formed by 2Pac which consisted of him and 4 others: Mopreme, Macadoshis, Big Syke, and The Rated R
After 2Pac was imprisoned on rape allegations the rappers would disband. Some would regroup after 2Pac's release and signing with Death Row Records and form the beginning of rap group called Tha Outlawz.
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How about some easy listening THUG RAP on Radiotuna:

http://radiotuna.com/
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Re: Well....you're both right.

Postby Coondog » 2015 Nov 01 13:41

The rap culture (which in Coondog's perspective is less culture and more anti-culture) adopted the term 'thug' and can take responsibility for elevating it into a career choice for young, impressionable minds.

Right wing conservatives have adopted the term as a way of denigrating dead, unarmed black people who happen to run up against individuals or groups of police who satisfy the former definition as well as anybody. It's a common term, but not one employed by the Right Wing for any other purpose.

Webster's: noun a violent criminal, a brutal ruffian, and gangster


Kudo's to crux, however, for actually researching something to back up one half of a credible argument.

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Equal thuggery under the law

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AO and coondog.

Postby Crux » 2015 Nov 01 19:40

Obama called out the thugs in Baltimore:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/28/politics/ ... -protests/

Bill Clinton called Obama a thug:
https://startthinkingright.wordpress.co ... cago-thug/

LAMEBRAINS

This the best you got? :clap:

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Wonderful Examples

Postby Coondog » 2015 Nov 02 10:29

This is fantastic. Not only has crux provided evidence that "Thug" is, indeed, a commonly used term, but also provided evidence that the critically right wing fails to understand that likening one's[i] politics [/i]to that of a thug is not, no matter how dated (2008) the source, the same as calling one a thug.

That's just politics.....and politics ain't people, my friend.

Even his fixation on Mike Brown and his alleged thuggery serves to remind one that, had Mike Brown survived to attend that college, he might have overcome his wayward ways and eventually become ........... President. Or he might have remained a thug and become a right wing radio talk host, chairman of the RNC or a serial killer.

But for crux, Mike Brown tends to get lost in the broader scope of things.

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This is really disturbing.

Postby Crux » 2015 Nov 07 17:33

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/us/louisi ... index.html

What happened? This is one to watch. A father critically wounded and his 6 year old son killed. Listen to the police Chief.
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Initial reports are the officers fired in self defense as the car they stopped was or did back into them.
Initial reports were that the father had outstanding warrants. Initial reports were the father exchanged gunfire.

No shots fired. No outstanding warrants. No officers apparently were at risk it seems.

Body cameras and video were important in this case.

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Coondog » 2015 Nov 08 13:02

Yes, it is!

It will be interesting to see how this gets deemed a justifiable shooting and how the police union determines the 6 year old's actions led to his own death.

Or, maybe not. Maybe this time will be different. Maybe!

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Frightening stats

Postby Crux » 2016 Aug 24 09:39

The Windy City, Chicago. Called that for all the bluster of politicians.

DETECTIVES OVERWHELMED

The number of detectives on the Chicago police force has dropped to 922 from 1,252 in 2008. One detective who retired two months ago said investigators are overwhelmed. Not all of the detectives are assigned exclusively to homicide cases.

"You get so many cases you could not do an honest investigation on three-quarters of them," he said in an interview. "The guys ... are trying to investigate one homicide and they are sent out the next day on a brand new homicide or a double."


The National Clearance Rate for murder is 63%. In Chicago it's 46%. This is the most violent city in America currently.
Not for the war on poverty, not for the Democrat Party, not for Obama and Community Organizing has the violence gone away...

Ever considered that Dems, Obama and Community Organizing is part of the PROBLEM? Culture and Ideology Matters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-chica ... SKCN10Z13A

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Wise One » 2016 Sep 29 00:22

This man explains why you are a fool ever to talk to the police.

(Unless you called them for their help, and even then you might wind up beaten and/or shot as recent news reports confirm.)



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a public service

Postby Crux » 2016 Sep 29 08:28

This is important information.

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Wise One » 2018 Apr 24 21:28

American police departments get the wrong kind of training, and that's an important part of our problems.

It can be done smarter and with better outcomes.

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Crux » 2018 Apr 25 11:53

What a terrible example of restraint. That jihadist just got done mowing down 30 people killing 10. Shooting him would have been justified given his threatening behavior (with a gun?). The officer didn't feel overly threatened by (the cell phone?) and wanted to capture him alive....

Nice use of restraint where it really wasn't warranted, necessarily.

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Wise One » 2018 Apr 25 12:19

And there you have it, a perfect example of why people like Crux should never be allowed to join the police force.

Only a bad policeman with awful training would treat every citizen as though he is a terrorist.

Most people are not, and deserve every reasonable protection by the police even they go about their jobs of protecting the general public from harm by that individual. Sometimes violence is justified, but only rarely. Bad policemen resort to violence as their FIRST action.

More on this

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Coondog » 2018 Apr 25 15:30

Possibly Canadian Police are not trained to use the "I was afraid" excuse. Or, maybe they're actually not afraid, unlike their southern cousins.

Whichever, damned fine response to a most despicable act. How 'bout them Mounties?

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Re: Our Police: Like Andy Taylor, or the Gestapo?

Postby Wise One » 2018 Apr 25 16:28

Yup.

Here's another case of excellent police behavior, this time American in the face of a self-entitled bully. They were perfect, she was forced to resign when the video was made public, and the result was excellent all around.

My only fear is over symmetry. The excellent restraint and disciplined de-escalation shown here, is often withheld when persons of dark skin tone are involved. It's criminal, and cops who fail to treat everybody with respect, even obnoxious people and those who might have broken a law, should get a job in another line of work.

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