The Rule of Law

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Kevsky
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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Kevsky » 2017 Feb 10 10:55

The agency has offered little explanation for its action, saying in statements that it is the result of a review, guided by court opinions, privacy laws and current litigation, that began last year. And though the decision was made under the Trump administration — which named a longtime foe of the Humane Society of the United States to head the USDA transition — the McGartlands’ lawsuit and interviews with former agency officials and animal protection advocates suggest that changes had partially begun several months before.

Former Agriculture secretary Tom Vilsack said Tuesday that his senior staff informed him toward the end of his term that the agency division responsible for enforcing the Horse Protection and Animal Welfare acts was recommending pulling the records from the website and instead making them available via Freedom of Information Act requests. He said one rationale was that doing so would reduce staff time spent on the documents. Litigation was also a factor, he added, though he could not recall a specific court case.

But Vilsack did not sign off on the recommendation — not because he disagreed with it but because he believed it had major implications that he didn’t have time to consider fully, he said. “There was not enough time for us to properly vet the recommendation, and I was concerned about transparency,” he explained.


Yet animal advocacy groups say access had already begun to be reduced last fall. The USDA last posted enforcement records in August, according to Eric Kleiman, a researcher at the Animal Welfare Institute who shared information about the lawsuit with The Washington Post. Other records were retroactively redacted, he said.


But in November, Kleiman noted, the USDA filed a motion to seal its own complaint. It sought to redact information about SNBL’s nearly $10 million profit over two years, as well as the number of monkeys it imported and used annually — the kind of information not covered under FOIA exemptions.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/animalia/wp/2017/02/09/usda-animal-welfare-records-purge-may-have-been-triggered-by-horse-industry-lawsuit

The removal of information from the USDA website actually began before Trump took office. The reasons were not to benefit those who were cruel to animals but to ensure due process for those accused of wrong-doing and mitigate liability for litigation against the USDA. But why the hell let facts stand in the way. Let's just say that Trump hates animals, right. And of course why would those who attack Trump want to rely on facts when the lies, distortions and fake news from the Daily Kos are so much more fun.

This means war. So now it's riot, loot, burn, pillage


Of course, these are the pillars and foundation of the liberal ideology inculcated in to every small liberal brain by their Fuhrer, Sal Alinsky. One would expect no less from them. Their desire to pepper spray women in the face:



To assault women and children:



To lynch people for supporting Trump



And normal Americans are getting sick of it. The majority of Americans are just hard-working people who just want to live their lives in peace with their family. They do not want or care for the chaos and mayhem the left desires to inflict.


But I do appreciate the fact that you are at least honest with your true intentions and ultimate goals. Although the average American is already becoming aware of the liberal's penchant for violence and lust to inflict pain, especially on the elderly, women and children.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Coondog » 2017 Feb 10 12:52

But Vilsack did not sign off on the recommendation — not because he disagreed with it but because he believed it had major implications that he didn’t have time to consider fully, he said. “There was not enough time for us to properly vet the recommendation, and I was concerned about transparency,” he explained.


Not surprising the Trump method relies, in this case and others, on the mantra, "Vetting? We don't need no stinking vetting!"

The nationwide angst over travel bans is another good example of much ado about nothing. It supposedly is to keep us safe from some magical influx of terror minded airline passengers, yet all it has done is foist fear and inconvenience upon a relatively small group of harmless people who have already been exhaustively vetted and pose no threat.

This is just Trump poking his finger into every pile of stinky poo he can find and stirring it around until someone yells "Phew!" The protests against this ineffective 'ban' recognize the useless damage it does, but that damage is already done. The real terrorists are dancing in their under drawers and howling at the moon.

Meanwhile, we have a White House full of lawless liars who seem to be above reprimand and have no shame about it. And it's only week three!

One is not surprised that a reptile, puppy hater and avid supporter of this kind of malfeasance would post ridiculous allegations about the imaginary "left" backed up by videos that imply say "error" when you try to play them. One is also not surprised that, in spite of the fact that the heroes of the daft in the world of politics now have control of the so called presidency, the senate, the house of reprobates and the supposed court, the vitriol continues to flow unabated.......and flow......and flow :beatdead:

Coondog

Anyone who would spend so much time defending puppy abusers must be a cohort of Michael Vick, or wearing the Ivanka Trump line of dawg kicking boots.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Kevsky » 2017 Feb 20 10:54

Coondog posted a story from the Daily Kos with a false narrative that "Trump's USDA hides information to protect animal abusers and puppy mills". I show facts countering that false narrative:

1. The USDA was already considering pulling the information during the Obama administration.
2. Advocacy groups stated that access to the information had already been reduced during the Obama administration.
3. The rationale for no longer posting the information was not to "protect animal abusers and puppy mills" but to reduce legal liability the USDA may incur in posting this information. This makes sense. The agency decided that the current policy could result in legal fees and civil lawsuits and made the prudent decision to suspend the posting of the information. Allowing the agency to utilize their budget on actually helping animals rather than potentially having to pay taxpayer's money on lawsuits. Reason over Emotionalism would you not say?

Coondog's response?

Confusion
Not surprising the Trump method relies, in this case and others, on the mantra, "Vetting? We don't need no stinking vetting!"


Vetting has nothing to do with the USDA issue. The statement from Vilsack was that he did not have time to properly vet the recommendations from his staff. How are you associating that with "The Trump method" of wanting to ensure refugees from war-torn countries are properly vetted?

Fourth grade name-calling
One is not surprised that a reptile, puppy hater and avid supporter

Anyone who would spend so much time defending puppy abusers must be a cohort of Michael Vick, or wearing the Ivanka Trump line of dawg kicking boots.


Changing the debate at hand
The nationwide angst over travel bans is another good example of much ado about nothing.


And really just going in to a delirious rant
This is just Trump poking his finger into every pile of stinky poo he can find and stirring it around until someone yells "Phew!"

The real terrorists are dancing in their under drawers and howling at the moon.


One is not surprised that a reptile, puppy hater and avid supporter of this kind of malfeasance would post ridiculous allegations about the imaginary "left" backed up by videos that imply say "error" when you try to play them.


The videos work fine and demonstrate with clarity the actual leftist penchant for the desire that you subscribe to.

Coondog states,

So now it's riot, loot, burn, pillage,


Coondog, you cannot access the videos because the staff at Western State Hospital has a policy of blocking violent videos from their patients.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Coondog » 2017 Mar 03 16:56

Coondog, you cannot access the videos because the staff at Western State Hospital has a policy of blocking violent videos from their patients.


Well......that explains a lot.

One can only say that if you consult social media for as much as 10 minutes you can find examples of anything under the sun and/or under the earth to support whatever generalizations you wish. As long as dawgs are afforded the proper level of respect they deserve, there is no problem.

Coondog :coffee:

Padded walls are so, so cozy

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Mueller is not all that...

Postby Crux » 2017 Oct 21 23:06

http://news.wgbh.org/2017/10/17/silverg ... -entrap-me

Interesting article about how Mueller operates.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Juggler » 2018 Jan 26 12:52

I found a note slid under the door last night inviting me to meet at an as-yet undisclosed location, for initiation into an "investigatory agency secret society."

To indicate agreement, the note said I should turn my porch light on and off ten times at 3 am tomorrow, and further instructions would follow.

I don't have a lot of experience with this kind of thing. What should I do?

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The Rule of Law from the LEFT

Postby Crux » 2018 May 07 20:58

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... ical-abuse

You are starting to get the picture. The LEFT is FULL of degenerates like this........