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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby fangz1956 » 2009 Jan 22 13:55

Ever looked at someone and thought "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"?

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby resigned » 2009 Jan 22 14:29




I also read it on the Drudge Report.

Where will the remaining 250 end up. Maybe in Kansas.

This is not contrived or fear based, just information I gleaned from other sources of which I imagine most here will decry as not being appropriate. Oh well. What can I say.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby fangz1956 » 2009 Jan 24 08:02

Ever looked at someone and thought "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"?

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Wise One » 2009 Jan 24 16:15

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby fangz1956 » 2009 Mar 01 19:58

Ever looked at someone and thought "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"?

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Coondog » 2009 Mar 02 13:05

Well....there may be a perfectly good reason for all this. Unfortunately that, too, is probably a secret.

Ever since the first adaptation of Ian Flemming novels into film in the 1960's, the public has been aware on some level that governments sneak around behind the scenes and covertly manipulate events is a spy vs. spy scenario. Seldom has the general public become aware of the specifics because is was top secret national security stuff that we didn't need to know about and shouldn't for our own good and peace of mind. Knowing the details of technically illegal and unconstitutional operations simply enhance our insecurity and general angst over such things that we have to watch movies about three times before we figure out what the heck we've seen.

The Bush Administration has elevated all that with the subtility of a naked man in a display window by operating with impunity directly under everybody's perverbial noses....and bragging about it. The operational stuff is still none of our business. And, that's where the pudding is the thickest!

I'm sure there are vast underground warehouses beneath the White House (litteraly or figuratively) where, along with the Ark of the Covenant, uncounted skeletons are kept that no one finds out about until they become president. We could let them all out. I'd prefer we didn't, though, as that might make us all a bit more unnerved than we already are over detention, torture, wiretapping, domestic spying, v-chips, ufos, etc. Our certainty about being proud to be Americans might well come into question. That would not be helpful!

I suppose the lesson to be learned if we are going to declare war against the rest of the world, and our own citizens, is:
Dont Take Any Prisoners :surrend:

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or..............If you do it in the light.......do it right!

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Wise One » 2009 Mar 28 09:23

It looks like the Brits, , stand the only chance of enforcing the rule of law.

The United States has apparently abandoned it. Bush lawbreakers escaped the consequences while they were in power and, sadly, the current administration lacks the courage to enforce the law, the embodiment of our ideals as a Nation.

:guillot: Maybe the French had the right idea after all.
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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Uji » 2009 Mar 28 14:55

This sure is disappointing. Will be interesting (thinking positively) to see how all this plays out. Hard to understand why O would take this line -- one seemingly so distant from the line he took as a candidate. It's too early to become cynical about the guy ... I hope! ... but this is not encouraging.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby fangz1956 » 2009 Mar 28 20:22

Why did he take this line? He's a politician......same wolf, different sheep suit. This skeptic has tried hard not to be skeptical. This cynic is trying hard not to be cynical. BUT.........the continually unfolding news makes that task extremely difficult. One could say that the recent press conference put the icing on the proverbial cake. More sacrifice expected from the working class and vitually none for the power elite.......no different than this freakish two-tiered justice system we have have morphed into. He did a fine job of trying to talk down the brewing pitch-fork rebellion. But talk is cheap and what action we have seen still has us hamstrung GW-style.

Change.......what change?

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby resigned » 2009 Mar 28 22:11

Its no longer GW but BO.

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Re: The Rule of Law

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Re: The Rule of Law

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2009 Apr 19 16:45

It looks like Obama is only half way there, having ordered the release of Bush's official papers ordering torture, themselves using tortured language to say that the law applies to everybody but the evil doers in the Bush administration.

We need to keep Obama's feet to the fire. Criminals need to be investigated, prosecuted and punished if found guilty, regardless of former position. The rule of law is the only thing that separates America from so many lesser countries. Bush goons nearly destroyed it and we need to get it back.

has it all, plus links to the actual memoranda of criminal "lawyers" working merely as corrupt mouthpieces to enable Bush torturers. It is a very clear analysis. Read it, weep, and let's do something about it so that it never happens again.

PS. I see that Obama in the right direction of accountability under the law. His a priori declaration that "We want to look forward, not backward," implying that he was stifling prosecutions from the top, was just the kind of illegal political meddiling in what is supposed to be an apolitical Department of Justice that Bush was guilty of. , as well she should, and Obama had the wisdom to backtrack. Not quite far enough, in my opinion.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Wise One » 2009 Jul 17 10:52

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby fangz1956 » 2009 Oct 18 06:54

Hat's off to the British High Court for having a


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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby simple1 » 2010 Oct 24 17:47

hey, in northern CA is legal to grow and sell POT!!! :hair:

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Wise One » 2011 Oct 19 10:33

Here's a I stumbled upon.

My results were "You answered 32 out of 33 correctly — 96.97 %." Try it and see how you do.
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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby anonymoose » 2017 Jan 04 23:12

He is worthless, to us rank-and-file. But apparently valuable to those with means to finance their special interests. Short of natural expiration, it will take a mighty-mighty force to unseat him. But in this climate, and if Virginians wake up, he could unseat himself. Agreed, he needs to go.

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Re: The Rule of Law

Postby Cannoneer » 2017 Feb 07 21:47

Would you liberals care to comment on how the rule of law is working around the country? The rioting destructive anti Trump people don't seem to give a damn about law or personal property.

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Re: The Rule of Law

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