East Lexington's Dam

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Should the East Lexington low-head dam be removed within 5 years?

Yes
27
68%
No
13
33%
 
Total votes: 40

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This is not that complicated to me.

Postby Crux » 2011 Apr 24 15:57

I can not go over this in detail for I really am not that interested in doing so, but you will have to concede that it had rained a bunch the day before, the river was up and swollen. Deceptive though the calm above the dam may have seemed, the danger was real, and the body of young Volpe was not recovered right away due to the high volume of water...

This is the way it was I think you will agree.

Additionally, even when this river is down, one might get swept over the dam, or might jump off and break their neck, or tumble under the spilling water long enough to drown. Risks are taken, accidents happen. Those that play with fire....

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

Postby Dukecati » 2011 Apr 25 10:20

There are park steps installed by the city welcoming swimmers into the hazard. It was like saying, "Swim here!" Sure you can drown in a bathtub but bathtubs don't have low-head dams over which water creates a suction or vortex on the down-river side. That is where the city is culpable. No warnings, no buoys, no nothing.

And rescuers thought the boy had been washed downstream, why they had searchers out downstream and a helicopter looking for him. No one knew to look for him at the base of the dam because they didn't know about the suction there. It was only after they couldn't locate him downstream that they brought up a boat with a cadaver-sniffing dog and finally located his body. The water volume is always extreme at the base of a low-head dam.

The city is at fault—Period. Especially since it knew of the potential danger and did nothing about it. Zip. Zero. Nada.

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Those that play with fire...

Postby Crux » 2011 Apr 25 10:45

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

Postby fangz1956 » 2011 Apr 25 11:07

Crux,

For once, I have to agree with you here. Swimming, as well as many other "sports", are at the participant's own risk. This case is proof positive that we have become a woefully and overly litigious society. Why accept personal responsibility when you can sue a third party and make them pay for your failures as a parent, a citizen, and a human?

I will pose this question to those who are so in favor of Volpe's contention that the city is at fault here. if you allow your child to participate as a player on the high school football team, and the child is permanently injured (as in paralyzed) as a result of his participation, are you going to sue the school, the County, the VHSL, the coach, and the parents of other players as being at fault? What if said child drops dead of a heart attack during football practice?

I'm with Crux........those who play with fire are bound to get burned. The responsibility lies with the individual (and in the case of minors, the parents).

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Let's see here...

Postby Crux » 2011 Apr 25 11:40

Crux has body surfed in the ocean and on SEVERAL occasions been tumbled and had his head bounced on the bottom and his breath he held til he couldn't hold it any longer...only to survive. Crux has climbed up inside an abandoned drive in movie theater to the skinny top to hang out with friends, against the law and better judgment, SURELY. Crux has driven TOO fast at times, knowingly, when he was a younger man. He even wrecked his car a couple times. Crux has jumped some SICK ramps on his bike. Crux has walked across frozen lakes, and had cracks form under his feet. Crux could tell you many other stories of risk and misadventure... No doubt you have your own. If Volpe had survived, he would have had another to add to his list, against all advice, common sense, perhaps even his parents wishes. We all pay the piper one way or another Duke.
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Re: East Lexington's Dam

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

Postby Wise One » 2011 Apr 27 14:30

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

Postby Wise One » 2012 Jun 29 12:17

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

Postby russ5150 » 2013 Feb 22 16:20

Frankly Charles Volpes death was a result of youthful hubris. . In other words he let overconfidence in his own abilities override common sense. The argument to remove the damn is pointless. We live in a litigious age where stupidity often leads to unnecessary lawsuits. Chuck Volpe is just trying to get paid.

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

Postby Wise One » 2017 Aug 13 22:49

"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like Donald Trump."

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Re: East Lexington's Dam

Postby Dowzer » 2018 Aug 11 16:29

For me the dam represents a terrifying possibility in winter and rainy weather on Furrs Mill Road. Tons of W&L students in party mode driving fast, so easy to be rearended or slide down into the Maury River dam area. If you examine this part of the road you will see the scary vulnerabilities. Our family takes alternate routes during snow, ice and rain. However, any vehicle any time could easily push your vehicle over the side.

I wrote to the powers that be to try to get a guardrail on parts of that road where you could easily slip through trees into the water but to no avail. it's not a matter of IF, definitely WHEN when it comes to the next accident in the water near the dam.


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