Ah, it's good to be back among the truly cruel and decidedly UN-Christian of this county. Thank goodness it's not as rampant a disease as say....bubonic plague, but hang in there...you're getting there.
Ah, Needler... we knew we could count on you... thanks for not disappointing. Your moniker does give fair warning and insight into your propensity for agitating rather than seeking understanding. What fun! Have at it.
You have repeated the same arguments over and over again, complete with jabs for those who may wish to consider more than one narrow viewpoint. Yes, since you have nothing new to add, nor seem interested in even trying to understand how others might see differently from you, it would be a good time for you to take a break. Thanks.
I find it curious that you attack my example of how another family chose to respond to their tragic loss by first saying that the situations are totally different, and then saying that you do not know about the circumstances. Perhaps if you do not know the circumstances then you may wish to hold off on your attack until you do. You appear harsh, un-Christian and cruel by your comments about the VMI instructor. You place your judgment over the judgment of the grieving parents yet seem compelled to defend Chuck at every turn. What's that about?
Since you seemed to miss or reject my point, I'll put it another way. Following the teachings of Jesus and how he taught his followers to deal with problems, the Pickrals chose forgiveness over attack. This kind of forgiveness does not excuse responsible parties for errant behaviors but rather frees all involved to seek the highest quality solution and resolution. The details do not really matter (at least according to the teachings of Jesus). Attack creates enemies of all kinds, every time.
I applaud Chuck (as I did in the original post) for working to make positive change for the community. Did you miss that? Try to remove yourself a bit from the emotional turmoil you seem to be experiencing and consider this: perhaps, just perhaps, Chuck could make MORE positive change, more quickly, if he engaged the community in a swell of pro-active energy had he chosen a different path other than attacking the community with a lawsuit. There seem to be other and perhaps more immediate things that could be done to improve the so-called terrible situation at Jordan's Point. Has anyone put up their own DANGER signs? How about a flag system that informs folks of the river conditions? A volunteer lifeguard or safety information guide? There are ways that people can take action if they choose to stop pointing fingers and do something.
Chuck has the right
the to sue the City for sure. And they will probably be found guilty of negligence. In the very few
years that Jordan Point has been a park where people even considered
swimming (remember this was the site of the sewage treatment plant and no one 'hung out' there) the City failed to anticipate
that something like this would happen. I drive by this spot multiple times a day. I was quite nearby the day Charles lost his life and commented that very day that there had never been so many young people hanging out at the park before and that it had really turned into a true park. That season was the first time this place became a social haven for youngsters. I do not presume to know "what the City knew" before this happened. I know that we had gathered there for many years at the conclusion of the annual Road & River Relay and there appeared to be a collective community understanding of the hazard that the Dam provided. While perhaps legally responsible, I can fathom how this could possibly have been a blind spot for the City government ( a collection of fallible human beings). Do you really think Bill Blatter would have only helped the Cause because Chuck is suing his longtime employer? I don't, but I'm sure this added extra motivation. Don't forget Bill is a big part of the City government..
Needler, you bring up the actions of the City Council. How would I know what or why they did or did not do? You are perfectly capable of contacting any and all of the Council members and asking them directly. Have you done this? What did they say? Easy to throw rocks sitting on your butt. And why should they attend the memorial or say they were sorry? Was this asked of them? Did they know Charles? Did anyone including the Volpe's give a crap about the 2 boys who died the year (or two) before Charles just up river? Were they or their families recognized or included in the huge hullabaloo? I wonder how they have felt considering their boys got no big community farewell. Rich kids are somehow more important? Hhmm...
I felt very badly for that family and the perceived lack of value of their loss. You may wish to consider for a moment that in this litigious world people in organizations (like city government) are trained and instructed to NEVER say they are 'sorry' or get involved with potential plaintiffs. Perhaps they felt that they could not express their personal feelings due to their civic obligations. And if Chuck was making threats (I do not know this - just supposing) this may have frightened them further. Again - ask those involved rather than vomiting bile on this forum.
Chuck chose to make this a public scandal. Chuck chose to come on this forum and be even more public. Part of putting yourself out in the public arena is accepting that you may be questioned, disagreed with and maybe even attacked for your words and actions. Chuck is a big boy and knows the ropes.He can dish it out, but is he really willing to take it without resorting to hostility. And when and if it makes it in the courtroom, Chuck better be prepared to hear from those whose mission it will be to tear down his position and perhaps say things about Charles's behavior and choices that he would rather not hear- fair or not, nice or not. Like LexMom, I have also heard from kids who were there and witnessed what happened (just hearsay I won't repeat). This is bound to get uglier and more painful for everyone, especially his poor mother. What does she think about all this? I'd like to hear from her heart directly. Will this lawsuit soothe her pain or magnify and prolong it?
This is a painful situation. My main idea is that perhaps there is a way to resolve this issue without so much divisiveness. How can we elevate the entire level of discourse? It is hard for me to understand how making enemies, attacking, and litigating will provide a solution for the highest good of the community.
Your right Needler, I would not call myself a Christian but rather a devoted student of Universal spiritual principles including
those of the great teacher Jesus of Nazareth. From your attitude here alone, I would not call you a follower of his teachings. I do not see the compassion, wisdom or forgiveness that are at the core of his teachings in your writings.
Lastly, forgiveness is required of us in rich measure, not because the inevitable hurts that come with being human are not painful, but because it is forgiveness that sets us free, that heals the unspeakable wounds, that allows us to grow in heart and spirit. The deeper the hurt, and the more powerful the injustice, the more we are invited to grieve, to sink into our pain, and to let go into forgiveness. Those who pray the Lord's Prayer ask God to "forgive our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us". This is not an easy task to be sure. Jesus taught "In the world you will have tribulation" and to love your enemy. The Buddha said that in this life we would experience ten thousand joys and ten thousand sorrows. He understood that suffering is a thread that runs through our entire lives. All that we have, including our own lives we will someday lose. Whatever we covet will pass away. This human suffering he named the "First Noble Truth". If we can meet each other in our humanity, perhaps great things can be accomplished. From the Dhammapada, a sacred Buddhist scripture (that mirrors Jesus' message) "Hatred never ceases by hatred. But by love alone is healed. This is an ancient and eternal law"