crux wrote:[b]I think there is a large percentage of Agnostics who grant room for the same thing. A wonder at the MIRACLE that is NATURE, and SCIENCE. A humble acquiescence to the notion that we can not know everything. That there are realms where we must guess, or abstain from certainty. Even the Christian has a reverence for MYSTERY.
Well, Crux, who wants to be the one to look down on COSMIC MYSTERY. Jeez ... But wait a minute... What is this "mystery" you celebrate?
I don't know how many hairs are on my head at this minute, nor do you. Is that a mystery? No, it's just ignorance. Can I ever know how many hairs are on my head at this instant -- can anyone? Probably not. Is that a cosmic mystery? I don't think so, it's just something that we don't know.
The notion that anyone who denies the "mystery" of creation is a know-it-all or unimaginative or somehow arrogant is nonsense. What we don't know is simply "what we don't know" -- i.e., ignorance. That there are things we can never know is neither a wonder nor a mystery; it is what the term "mortal" implies.
Anyone who claims to know such things as mortals can not know -- whether by intuition or faith or divine revelation -- is arrogant and irrational and willfully ignorant.
Awe at the wonder of nature, the cosmos, and those things in it is not mysterious, but part of the human condition. The religious or those otherwise convinced that they can know the unknowable do not have a monopoly on aesthetic appreciation of the cosmos. Rather, they flee from its actual mystery -- that we can never know its source or nature -- into a false certainty: He designed it -- for Us.
You get to think anyway you want about anything you want. You don't get to claim that it's reasonable, though; there are rules that apply that have nothing to do with opinion -- much less faith or wonder.
Religion has many uses in our society -- many of them valuable. But its misuse as a substitute for reason is misguided and unnecessary.
"A humble acquiescence that we can't know everything?" Is that what Creationism is? Just the opposite: It represents the rejection of what we CAN know -- in fact DO know -- in favor of a faith in things that no mortal can never know. Even to the religious, that must be the opposite of "humble."