Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Main discussion area is here. Reply to a message to continue a discussion thread, or create your own new Topics.

Go on now.

Postby Crux » 2012 May 18 14:50

It may be born out that Z has some culpability beyond mere justifiable self defense. It is not clear that:

Wise One wrote:
There would have been no confrontation, no fight, no murder except for the fact that Zimmerman pursued, closed on, and threatened an innocent pedestrian.

What happened during the confrontation is largely Zimmerman's own fault for being a hot-headed macho aggressor, ignoring his own training and explicit instructions by the police not to confront Martin.

I don't know exactly what happened, but it would be very sick to hold an attacker innocent of murder just because he wound up momentarily on the losing side of a fight that he started himself.


WHOA there Tex.

"Murder"? That will have to be proven. Pursued? This is speculation. Z, the neighborhood watch guy followed the suspicious TM in the rain. Called police. Indicated that he would stop following and meet cops at his mailbox in his vehicle. A confrontation happened. Maybe TM, stoned, and the truant tough that he was, got pissed off, and took it to that sum bitch.

"Closed on"? This is opinion. At what distance did Z follow TM? Does we know? Following the suspicious with your full attention, eyes, and feet, is no crime. You do not know if or at what point Z stopped following TM.

"Attacker"? Your assumptions are not helpful. Z got the fear of God beat into his head that night. Was he himself negligent in this homicide? We shall see what the process brings. Who assailed who you do not know AO.

Now. Speaking to the process. The Prosecutor has not in the charging documents indicated many very pertinent facts. There's depth to this that we can not verify as of yet, and the arrogant flounder, and ignore their own bias, and go on.

Simple really.


(crux)ofthematter

Seriously.

Could you share a little about what you were thinking when you chose "Wise One" in capitals as your user name?

You are close to some truths here AO, but your assumptions and conclusions are lacking.


Enjoy the week-end.
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Coondog » 2012 May 21 14:13

I don't know how this continues to be a topic of conversation, other than an insatiable desire to make everything political.

So...lets be fair!

Without publicity and intervention by people like Sharpton and Jackson (not favorites of the NRA), there would probably be no preponderance of evidence at all. To that extent, they deserve some credit that, the system is at least in play.

Are they correct that this a case of racial profiling? In my opinion, probably not! We cannot know what went on in Zimmerman's head. Maybe it 'is' about race. But, it seems more likely that whatever profiling did take place had more to do with hoodies than actual race. 'Punks' are not a protected class under the law.

The intricacies of Florida law and the viability of Zimmerman's account (lacking paranormal testimony from the other side) will ultimately decide the case one way or another to the satisfaction of.....probably no one.

I still think the law is poorly conceived and that Zimmerman is, regardless of all else, a dumb ass....but I'll withhold final opinion on the rest of it until the verdict is in. Jurors are hardly ever wrong!

Coondog :tiphat:
User avatar
Coondog
 
Posts: 1096
Joined: 2008 Jul 08 15:14

Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2012 May 23 08:10

Gotta say I agree with you for the most part. I feel there has been too much attention on this one case and no attention to recent murders which were by far more atrocious. It seems to me that ole Al Sharpton and Jackson used this tragedy to get attention for themselves and used the parents in a despicable way.
Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as
"extremists
User avatar
Sam
 
Posts: 394
Joined: 2009 Jul 31 22:49

While we are talking about famous black men...

Postby Crux » 2012 May 30 17:00

How about Barry Obama and Alan West. Two of MY favorites. I like this Town Hall video clip, of Alan West being questioned about an incident 9 years ago when, I take it he fired a pistol over the head of an enemy combatant? Maybe to get information that could keep his troops safe. I like how he handles it. Confronts it. Alan West is right on as usual. Check out his response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cLt9bRn ... r_embedded

Obama is really such a joke. Dangerous yes, but a JOKE.

crux
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Sam » 2012 May 31 02:08

Just be careful,son that you don't get on Obamas kill list
Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as
"extremists
User avatar
Sam
 
Posts: 394
Joined: 2009 Jul 31 22:49

Revised Downward

Postby Crux » 2012 Jun 01 12:59

This sums up pretty well all expectations of BO. Those who had Hope, disappointed. Those who had Fear, had it right...

It brings no joy to confront the abysmal reality that is this President. Economic growth revised downward again. 31 out of 33 months. Downward. Unemployment up to 8.2%, but everybody with a brain knows that there are 2 million less workers in the mix now as compared to when BO stepped up to the plate. The actual rate if you include these 2 million is 10.9%. BO just laments no one knew how bad it was. He ran on deficit reduction and against deficit spending. 5 TRILLION later? This is an absolute train wreck. It is painful to watch and live. The Keynesians think the Stimulus was simply not enough. The Quantitative Easing of the value of the dollar, not enough. Job numbers revised downward.

Barrack H. Obama, This man is in over his head.

He has said if he doesn't get it right economically, he will be a one term President. Remember that? Now we have him telling donors he needs a second term to re-do health care. Strange, and Disturbing to All, but the One His Own Self. Elizabeth Warren? Barney Frank and Chris Dodd? Eric Holder and Timmy G.? Biden? Pelosi and Reid?

These are the BRAINS???

CRUX
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Coondog » 2012 Jun 01 13:42

Yep it looks really bad!

Growth is slower than we would prefer. But the key word is growth. 69,000 jobs to the good is better than 69,000 jobs lost.

The gleeful conservatives are quick to point out that the Obama economic policies they have undermined from the beginning are struggling to aid the floundering economy. Republican "job creators" prefer to donate millions upon millions to superpacs that spread hate, lies and disinformation rather than use that money to "create jobs".

In spite of the fact that Obama is supposed to hate business, hate america, wanht bigger government, not understand the economy.....Somehow....private sector jobs increase every month. Somehow, public sector jobs continue to shrink (contributing to an unemployment rate higher than it should be). Somehow, the stock market has doubled. Somehow corporate profits are at all time highs.

And Romney's supporters want to turn all that around?

Coondog :dontknow:
User avatar
Coondog
 
Posts: 1096
Joined: 2008 Jul 08 15:14

(shakes head)

Postby Crux » 2012 Jun 02 17:23

coondog wrote:Growth is slower than we would prefer. But the key word is growth.


Is the rate of growth above the rate of inflation?

crux
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Wise One » 2012 Jun 04 07:52

It is not only Republicans we have to worry about attacking important liberties guaranteed by our Constitution. The Obama administration assented to, and the President signed, this abominable law.

Thankfully, it has been ruled unconstitutional by a court, as described here.
"If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."
User avatar
Wise One
 
Posts: 1378
Joined: 2007 Nov 02 09:33

And three more cases described here...

Postby Crux » 2012 Jun 07 07:09

...maybe FIVE! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 59342.html

Big Government one size fits all top down central state control... :coffee: ...like Obamacare and moves against voter ID.

May the courts be unfriendly. :beer:

crux
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

DNC's War on Women (and children)

Postby Crux » 2012 Aug 27 16:55

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/0 ... rylink=cpy

No children allowed at the Democrat National convention, AND OBVIOUSLY (ick) NO BREASTFEEDING!!!
Now on the other hand we must note the RNC has taken the draconian step of banning (gulp) actually BANNING BABY STROLLERS from the Republican National Convention!!

:dontknow:

crux
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: Hypocrisy Liberal Style

Postby Juggler » 2012 Aug 27 18:07

A pox on both their houses !!!!!!

Go, Gloria !!!

gloria-steinem-playmateBunny.jpg
gloria-steinem-playmateBunny.jpg (48.21 KiB) Viewed 785 times
User avatar
Juggler
 
Posts: 422
Joined: 2007 Jun 11 03:51

(D) Voter Fraud by (D) Candidate!

Postby Crux » 2012 Sep 10 20:44

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mar ... _blog.html

Imagine that. WAIT. You don't have to! It really happened!! "Allegedly" :clap:

Remember Al Franken? He was elected by 300 odd votes, in an election where oxer 1100 convicted felons were found to have voted. He was you could say, THE DECIDING VOTE on obamacare...

Remember Florida? 500 odd votes decided Florida, and THE ELECTION of bush v. gore...

We could go on and on all day. How about you you have to show ID to rent a car, buy a drink, apply for taxpayer assistance, get into an Obama campaign event, fly on a plane, drive a car, AND VOTE!

:usa2: crux
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

"Demonomics" or, Democrat Economics...

Postby Crux » 2013 Oct 09 09:54

...a HEX on your house!!!

Demonomics. Examples abound in current events. We are in the midst of the Democrat Shutdown.
The American People are MEANT to suffer the stupidity of it all.

Example ONE: The Republicans have offered, even sent up a bill to the Senate and ostensibly the President to fully fund everything including Obamacare, just "delay the individual mandate for one year". After all, the President has DELAYED THE BIG BUSINESS MANDATE FOR A YEAR.

See, business gets a break under your Dem President, because they are politically connected. It is one of the great lies peddled by Dems that the "The GOP is all about the RICH. Big Corporations and Wall Street Special Interests are in TIGHT with the GOP". The reverse is that the Dems are for the little guy. What bumper stickers...

What utter nonsense when REALITY is staring you in the face!!!

Guess what? No negotiation or compromise, just overblown rhetoric about WIC, starving children, death benefits for dead patriots, and guns being held to the heads of the American People...

This is what passes for Democrat Leadership. Whining about furloughed Federal Workers who are on PAID vacation, while thousands of private workers get SHAFTED by the show of Democrat Force.

Example two: PBS gets a half a billion dollars but funding for clinical cancer trials and other life-saving research under the National Institutes of Health was cut off in this Democrat Shutdown.

Sure it takes two to tango, and the dance for near 5 years has been a Democrat Lead.

3. NO BUDGETS negotiated for 4.5 years. Just a clever little game of continuing resolutions that call for a progressive socialists utopian dream! ACROSS THE BOARD SPENDING INCREASES!!!

4. Those spending increases built upon historic mountains of unsustainable DEBT!!! It is the DEMOCRATS kicking the can down the road... Bush's biggest deficit? 455 billion. Obama has run up the spending THREE TIMES THAT every year.

Heck. Even the cheerleaders who TRUMPET his cutting the deficit by half FAIL to give the Sequestration that they OPPOSED and the GOP any credit. All we get is CRAP about the evil Tea Party... It gets old but that's Demonomics!

5. It is the DEMOCRATS building a government health care system. Fascistic now, socialistic soon enough!!! Own it and call it for what it is.

6. Word games like calling taxes REVENUES. Calling spending and redistribution of tax dollars "investments". Cuts to the automatic rates of growth through base-line budgeting "budget cuts".

I probably laid out ten points. I know many here don't care to LOOK AT REALITY. They forget Obama calling the borrowing of vast sums of money, deficit spending, and raising the debt ceiling OUTRIGHT DESTRUCTIVE and IRRESPONSIBLE and UNPATRIOTIC. Sadly too many a little too late are realizing they invested to much hope for change, reconciliation, compromise and honesty in our President. Such high hopes dashed in too many...

What do you expect at this point from an in over his head Ivory Tower Executive? You were warned, twice. It is again just what you will get if you elect another...

Get ready for Terry Obama McKaullife in Virginia!!

It is what it has been for years. I have lost so much respect for my so-called liberal brothers and sisters. The so called independents need to rise UP!!! Government is not the solution. Top down one size fits all central state planning for 330,000,000 or 7,000,000,000 in Virginia is NOT the stuff of Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Local Control or Creative Entrepreneurial Artistic Expression.

I actually just yesterday heard a "lib" suggest the USSR just "didn't manage things well"...

Ignorant intellectuals crafting solutions to the very problems they created in the first place.
Don't forget. The Obama Administration is the MOST INEXPERIENCED Executive EVER when it comes to real word business and economic experience. Political Organizer and Campaigner for a better tomorrow that never comes In-Chief. I still can not fathom that he got RE-elected.

Welcome to the Thugocracy, ruled by the Mob for the Mob. Sit back, lock your doors, and hunker down in place. One day enough will wake up and turn this rotten apple cart over. Maybe not in my lifetime, but when it all falls apart, maybe then. The DANGER is something WORSE rising up...

It is my sadness for what is happening to this Great Nation. Welcome, to the tipping point.
In case you missed it...

crux
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

How about number 11...

Postby Crux » 2013 Oct 09 11:27

...ish.

Printing money. So it was unpatriotic and irresponsible to "pull out the credit card to China" according to then candidate Obama. Remember? Well since we can not borrow from China at low enough interest rates anymore, we have taken to PRINTING MONEY.

Thanks Obama. 2 or 3 economic down-grades later we have QE3. We see a new Fed Chief coming in appointed by Obama who says the printing of 85 BILLION every month will continue to "create jobs".

Se the Dems hide their man made depression under the guise of degrading our very economic sovereigny by devaluing the dollar. It is a great reordering of global power and the People will pay the price. Rich and poor. Only the Wealthy will come out on top.

One day this unsustainable aspect of Demonomics will have to go by the wayside at such a time the Democrat cheerleaders will cry "Austerity is an EVIL GOP PLOT to crush the poooor..." The poor of course are continually crushed in spirit by the vote buying dependency gifts which barely keep them quiet. It is sad...

i take heart when those like Ben Carson, and Thomas Sowell spout first hand truths. Like Frederick Douglas, black conservatives will again guide the Nation towards a better path. The way was once clear, but alas... The CRUSH IS ON folks..

Many do awake, on their own schedule. I find it easy to blame guilt ridden white idealistic partisans who care-take those they see as incapable. Maintaining a victim class for political power is a strategy but it isn't my way to battle an unfair life experience. My way is to challenge the individual to realize the power in their CHOICE.

Read about it here. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/am ... eate-jobs/

Yellen for printing money!

I remember talking to well intentioned Democrats before the last election and challenged them to speak out against the economic insanity of increasing the crushing debt upon our children, and the printing of money. They said they did not support that, and could not believe it would continue.

It would be nice if folks on the left of center side would pay attention.

Then, as now, few know hat QE3 is or that we print 85 BILLION per month to maintain a fiction of stability. I call upon YOU to CLUE into what an Unfunded Federal Mandate is. I call upon YOU to actually speak out amongst yourselves, against a run away Federal machine.

Truly, it is NOT oversimplification to call the Democrat PARTY, the party of BIG GOVERNMENT.

cruxacommonman

Let's be clear. I only blame the individual Democrat who doesn't dare to open their eyes. Your Party is a BUST, the parents are absent from the home, and the youth are indiscreet!!! :sail:
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: "Demonomics" or, Democrat Economics...

Postby Coondog » 2013 Oct 09 11:45

If you're sad about what's happening to this country........just wait a couple of weeks. You'll be mortified!

Coondog sees a bad moon rising. Elected republican representatives see a rainbow spawned by the heavenly nectar of a government shutdown and the brilliance of economic default.

Sorry....but anybody who calls this a Democrat Shutdown is either completely stupid or the biggest liar on earth.

The republicans are dancing.....bragging about how wonderful it all is. Of course, they're not to happy about some of the effects, but they can blame that on Obama. (how unusual).

Only a small minority of very loud mouthed liars and the poor dumb illiterates who believe them (who are many) credit the shutdown to anybody but the house republicans. Either fix it or own it! Don't bring about a shutdown, then bitch about the parks being closed.

You were told what would happen. Don't act so surprised.

.........or are we finding that government DOES serve vital functions in ways certain elected officials never gave a thought to?

Grow up! Take responsibility! When the world economy crashes because of the default and the world is launched into a depression of monumental proportions, a great many of the instigaters who think its a good idea will express surprise and chagrin, deny they had any part in it.......and blame it on Obama.

It's like farting and blaming it on the dog!
-Jon Stewart


By then, however, it won't really matter who is to blame. It won't be fixable and when our enemies and allies alike declare war on us for wrecking the world economy.......well, conservatives like war, don't they? They pay for themselves!

Coondog

:curse:
User avatar
Coondog
 
Posts: 1096
Joined: 2008 Jul 08 15:14

Re: "Demonomics" or, Democrat Economics...

Postby Juggler » 2013 Oct 09 11:55

Image
User avatar
Juggler
 
Posts: 422
Joined: 2007 Jun 11 03:51

Re: "Demonomics" or, Democrat Economics...

Postby Crux » 2013 Oct 09 17:04

One of these days you will note that just because jay Carney says it, doesn't make it so. Only 17% of GOVERNMENT is affected. Furloughed employees will get paid for their unscheduled vacations... The GOP has sent up PASSED Bills to fund all of essential spending. We should get back to regular order and take up Appropriations Bills, not Continuing Resolutions. This is unprecedented. The President REFUSES to negotiate a sustainable path forward with the Majority in Congress, where bills originate.

Moody's Rating Agency knows we've monies to service our debt. They are not worried Dude.

12. on the list of Demonomics. Cost Over-runs. We know the original price of Obamacare has gone from 900 billion to 1.4 to 2.7 TRILLION so far, just since signing. Also 43 million was set aside to set up the WEB SITE for Obamacare signups, and 3 YEARS later it has cost over 600 million and is not up and running. There now you AND CNN know the truth...

You are PATHETIC.

By then, however, it won't really matter who is to blame. It won't be fixable and when our enemies and allies alike declare war on us for wrecking the world economy.......well, conservatives like war, don't they? They pay for themselves![/quote]

I disagree with everything you are saying. I see no Republicans dancing. I predict in the next two weeks a deal will be reached. The Dems in the Senate and the President will be forced to negotiate and compromise, as they MUST. It is their duty...

I predict you will be proven wrong. I predict Obama and Reid will be held responsible. As they should be. I really think you don't know that the House has done it's job. The house EVERY YEAR has sent up a Budget. The Dem Senate has FAILED to take it up.

I think enough damage has been done to our allies and for our enemies by Demonomics. We have been downgraded by our exorbitant spending and debt and printing of money. I think coondog doesn't have a clue. I think coondog is a loser.

Obama painted himself into a corner. Barring Catholic Priests in the Army from holding services, closing the PXs on Military bases where the families of service members shop. Closing the WWII memorial to all and threatening WWII vets with arrest, while allowing a demonstration for Illegal Immigration. Closing private businesses on public lands. Blocking scenic overlooks. De-funding the District. Closing the Normandy Military Site in FRANCE!! Granting half a BILLION to PBS but no money for death benefits to dead soldiers...

War? OK big boy. True or false. The GOOD war in Afghanistan has cost MORE than the BAD war in Iraq? True or false. 73% of casualties have been under Obama's watch in the good war. The Tea Party
is not keeping the government from opening and will not cause the government to default. They lead the way for a measure of fiscal responsibility.

Default? Clueless much? You're just a fear mongering hate-filled cheerleader for Demonomics.

Here is a guess. Short term CR, then Negotiation. Then a delay to the Individual Mandate. Bet i will be more right than you...
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: "Demonomics" or, Democrat Economics...

Postby Crux » 2013 Oct 09 17:19

Juggler wrote:Image


You are so lost Little Brother. The Elephant is our elected majority in the House. They have consistently represented their constituents in this Republic. They have sent up PASSED budgets every year. They have sent up bills to fund essential services with unanimous Democrat house support. Look it up...

You can keep acting the tool, and the fool, but you are better than that. THINK my Brother.

It is never too late to learn of and discern the truth...

cruxthepatriot

13. Right to work states are the stronger economies as compared to non RTW states...

14. The IRS and White House we see have exchanged confidential income tax information.

This is the MOB. This is the action of a Tyranny. Sarah Hill Ingram I believe. Look it up....

You miss much when your mind is so clouded by Hopium and Changium, dude. Put the bong down.
Last edited by Crux on 2013 Oct 09 17:25, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Crux
 
Posts: 1962
Joined: 2010 Dec 16 20:44
Location: Rockbridge Virginia

Re: "Demonomics" or, Democrat Economics...

Postby Coondog » 2013 Oct 09 17:25

Enough already!

You're Right!

Obama put all the poison pills in the House legislation. Obama caused the San Franciscan Earthquake!
"We didn't seek to defund the ACA by threatening shut down.....Obama did it. We're not threatening to ignore the debt ceiling unless we get something....anything that hurts somebody! Obama did it!"

You're so right, crux!

Obama didn't learn anything when he was president in 2008, or when he was president in 1997, or when he was president during the War of 1812. Secret gay, muslim illegal aliens seldom learn anything. Hellk, he even failed to stop 9-11!

Haven't read O'Rieley's book yet......but Obama probably kills Lincoln in the end.

Enough!

Coondog :shakeh:

Like I said: You were warned! Own it!
User avatar
Coondog
 
Posts: 1096
Joined: 2008 Jul 08 15:14

PreviousNext

Return to MAIN FORUM

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest