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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Neck-aint-red » 2017 Feb 19 09:56

What is it that conservative voters just don't get yet?

Chris Joosse, Limited government, fiscal conservative wrote:
In no particular order:

No, the liberal left doesn’t harbor deep-seated desires and grand plans to control every aspect of your life, in ‘political correct’ totalitarian style. You’re being told that because it makes you easier to influence politically. (there’s nothing so unifying as a common enemy)

Yes, the folks on the left do love America too, and no, they don’t hate you or your freedoms. Whoever tells you these things is not your friend or ally- you’re their tool, to the extent you believe that stuff. When lefties sound frustrated with you, part of that is they don’t like that you’re being taken advantage of, in ways that affect everyone. Also, they’ve been trying to tell you this stuff a lot, but it doesn’t seem to be getting across.

No, Liberals are never coming for your guns. They might want you to comply with some rules and accept some limitations to their use, and some are beyond angry with how the gun die-hards refuse to accept any regulation whatsoever, but it’s just. not. going. to. happen. The folks telling you it’s gonna happen are the same folks who just sold you your stockpiles of ammo at price-gouging rates, because you were convinced you had to buy it while you could. They’re not your friends, you’re their marks.

No, lefties aren’t in favor of Sharia law when they make it clear they don’t like to see Muslims discriminated against. It means they don’t want the USA to act like a theocracy, not because they want to impose a Muslim one.

No, the nazis and fascists weren’t left-wing, and it doesn’t matter that the GOP was once the party of Lincoln and civil rights. What does matter is that the GOP is today the party of voter suppression, gerrymandering, and false claims about rampant voter fraud.

No, ‘getting tough’ on social issues, like crime or drugs or whatever doesn’t work. If it did, the problem would already be solved, and it’s quite possible that the perceived unfairness of ‘get tough’ rules (as applied) contributes to the problems (like the way community:police relations aren’t good in high-crime areas).

No, the money from tax cuts to the rich never ever ever ever trickles down, and the people who tell you it will are making out like bandits while you wait.

No, we’re not broke from idle moochers draining the system and living large on too-generous benefits. We spend tons on corporate welfare and government contracts, more than we do on other sorts of welfare. The stories about welfare queens and lazy moochers living large on the dole are invented to keep your attention away from all the tax dollars going into corporate pockets.

No, the USA isn’t number one in the world at anything now, except for per-capita incarceration, military spending, and the prices we pay for medical care and pharmaceuticals. We have lots of potential to be better, and wanting the USA to be better isn’t the same thing as not-loving America.

We get it, the future in which white people are a minority makes you uneasy- but the problem isn’t who’s a minority, it’s that minorities are regarded and treated as second-class citizens by too many people. Fix that part, and everything has potential to turn out fine. Not fixing it means when we’re the minority, it’ll be our (or our grandchildren’s) turn to be treated as second-class, and we’ll deserve it when we have to protest about how White Lives Matter. Social justice isn’t about taking away white rights, it’s very much in our interests.

No, it’s not hypocritical when ‘tolerant’ liberals aren’t tolerant of intolerance or bigotry. It would be hypocritical if they were.
A lot of those jobs are never coming back, and politicians telling you they will aren’t your friends- you’re their marks. Already the easy-to-automate work has been automated, and eventually even the skilled labor (like automating work) will eventually be automated. (yes, today there is software writing other software, machines building other machines). Eventually, this will force us to re-think the idea of work being our identity, or how to organize an economy with surplus labor that still looks like America.

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Kevsky » 2017 Feb 20 12:12

Yes, the folks on the left do love America too, and no, they don’t hate you or your freedoms. Whoever tells you these things is not your friend or ally- you’re their tool, to the extent you believe that stuff. When lefties sound frustrated with you, part of that is they don’t like that you’re being taken advantage of, in ways that affect everyone. Also, they’ve been trying to tell you this stuff a lot, but it doesn’t seem to be getting across.


Condescension, Lies and False Narrative

The condescension of the above statement is overwhelming. The average American knows better. Of course not all on the left hate America, but many on the left do. For twenty years Obama went to a church whose pastor preached "God damn America". Was he preaching that as love and respect for the American nation? Obama was friends and acquaintances with Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, two violent radicals who sought to overthrow the American government and bombed public buildings. The left loved Bill Ayers so much he was able to become a professor at the University of Illinois. So, should we really believe that all on the left love America too? As for the left being concerned we are being taken advantage of. The reality is they are upset they are not the ones able to take advantage of the Americans and they are not totally in charge. One only has to look at how they have freaked out and become unhinged for having lost the Presidential election. They are so concerned about the average American being taken advantage of they are forming protests to beat, harass and harm average Americans and destroy their property. What hypocrisy.


They might want you to comply with some rules and accept some limitations to their use, and some are beyond angry with how the gun die-hards refuse to accept any regulation whatsoever,


Outright Lies and Deception.

Refuse to accept any regulation whatsoever? Firearms are highly regulated. There are laws and regulations covering; interstate transfers of firearms, mandatory background checks, fully automatic firearms, use of silencers, loss of firearm ownership rights after having committed a felony, requirements for a permit to carry a concealed weapon and on and on. How can such a lie be stated that any regulations of firearms has been refused?


No, lefties aren’t in favor of Sharia law when they make it clear they don’t like to see Muslims discriminated against. It means they don’t want the USA to act like a theocracy, not because they want to impose a Muslim one.


Obfuscation and false narrative

Where are Muslims being discriminated against? What government policies discriminate against Muslims?

No, it’s not hypocritical when ‘tolerant’ liberals aren’t tolerant of intolerance or bigotry. It would be hypocritical if they were.


Lies and False Standard

Who sets the standard for intolerance or bigotry? How is it defined?

Liberals supported a President (Barak Obama) who went to a church for 20 years which espoused black supremacy. Is black supremacy intolerance or bigotry? Maybe not to a liberal.

Liberals support La Raza. La Raza counts the pro-reconquista Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán (Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán) as an affiliate and helps fund the organization. MeCHA’s slogan is "Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada," meaning “For the Race everything, outside the Race nothing.” Who qualifies to be inside "the race' and who is "outside the race and receives nothing'? Is that not intolerance and bigotry?

How about "Black Lives Matter"
If white mobs harassed black people, screamed racist slogans and claimed that even the existence of black people was oppressive, no one would hesitate to describe that ugliness as racism. When #BlackLivesMatter racists do it, it’s excused, defended and even praised as a civil rights movement.


But if people demand a sane immigration policy that ensures possible terrorists are not admitted they are immediately labeled intolerant, bigoted xenophobes.

Explain to me the liberal's definition of tolerance.


No, we’re not broke from idle moochers draining the system and living large on too-generous benefits. We spend tons on corporate welfare and government contracts, more than we do on other sorts of welfare. The stories about welfare queens and lazy moochers living large on the dole are invented to keep your attention away from all the tax dollars going into corporate pockets.


Obfuscation and false comparison

All the result of having a "Big Government" that is expected to take an active role in all facets of life, a liberal imperative. Damn straight we spend tons on corporate welfare and government contracts and we should not. It is not the Government's job to pick winners and losers and the Crony Capitalism "Big Government" has created should be dismantled and Conservatives are against "Big Government while the left supports it. As for welfare, no one believes welfare recipients are living large on the dole. But, the welfare industry provides a means for many people to live a moderate means of life without working when they are fully capable of working. For those who are responsible, spend only what they earn and work to earn it, limit the number of children they have to only those they can support - why should they have to support those who choose not to work or who choose not to be responsible mothers or fathers .

No, the money from tax cuts to the rich never ever ever ever trickles down, and the people who tell you it will are making out like bandits while you wait.


Distortion and Lies

Whenever tax cuts across all tax rates are proposed, Liberals always call it tax cuts to the rich. I guess anyone who works enough to pay income tax is in the "rich" category.

Bush tax cuts: $544.3 billion…The bulk of that cost — $463 billion — is for the extension of cuts for families making less than $250,000, including two years of relief for 2010 and 2011 for the middle class from the Alternative Minimum Tax.

The rest — $81.5 billion — is attributable to the extension of cuts that apply to the highest income families.

In other words, 85% of the tax cuts went to the middle class.
But, Obama didn’t care. He needed a talking point.


Another Obama Lie Exposed


What does matter is that the GOP is today the party of voter suppression, gerrymandering, and false claims about rampant voter fraud.


Lies and False Narrative

Requiring ID to vote is not voter suppression. Gerrymandering is common with both parties when they are in control. Voter fraud does and is occurring and Democrats work to cover it up.

Illegal Foreign Voting in Virginia

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Re: Hypocrisy Republican Style

Postby Juggler » 2017 Jun 17 21:51

This just in.


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